Turbocharging carbureted petrol 2 stroke engines

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The discussion centers around the feasibility and mechanics of turbocharging carbureted two-stroke petrol engines, particularly in the context of motorcycle and snowmobile applications. Participants explore various technical challenges, potential modifications, and the implications of such turbocharging on performance and efficiency.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question how to supply oil to the turbo bearings, noting that two-stroke engines lack the oil systems found in four-stroke engines.
  • Concerns are raised about the crankcase needing to handle higher pressures and the potential need for mechanical spark advance management without EFI.
  • One participant suggests that while a draw-through carbureted setup may work, it could require extensive trial and error to achieve a functional configuration.
  • Another participant proposes starting with a four-stroke engine and converting it to a two-stroke, highlighting the potential for improved power-to-weight ratio but also increased emissions.
  • There is discussion about the limitations of compression ratios in turbocharged engines and the possibility of switching to ethanol for higher compression ratios.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the reliability of boosted carburetion compared to EFI, particularly in high-performance applications.
  • Technical details regarding the design of piping and exhaust systems are debated, with suggestions that the configuration may need to be tailored for specific RPM ranges.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the feasibility of turbocharging carbureted two-stroke engines, with multiple competing views and technical challenges remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of established methods for managing oil supply to the turbo, the complexities of tuning carburetors for boosted applications, and the potential need for extensive testing to achieve desired performance outcomes.

  • #121
bluechipx said:
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  • #122
Baluncore said:
It is a single-shaft, gas turbine engine, with a hybrid combustor.
Air is compressed, then fuel is added,
that mix passes into a cyclic cylinder combustor, with spark-ignition,
energy is extracted by the piston, to the crankshaft and flywheel,
the exhaust drives the turbine, which is on the compressor shaft.
you talk about the second video ive posted correct?
 
  • #123
Sorry for the very childish graphics, LOL. Here's the drawing I was talking about earlier.

turbo-2-stroke-can-it-work-2stroke-turbochargerd.webp


The final question is:
in this setup, EXACTLY as shown in the drawing, without making any further modifications (except proper carburetion), and especially with no kind of intake valve (just a basic two-stroke engine), can it produce more horsepower compared to the same engine without a turbo?

(please read the specific texts in the drawing before and consider if turbocharger can really act like an ''equalizer'')

YES why?

NOT why?
 
  • #124
As a parallel to the spark-ignition, two-stroke hybrid engine, there is a fuel injected, two-stroke diesel hybrid.

The Napier Nomad, was a 12 cylinder two-stroke hybrid diesel, built and tested in the late 1940s. In that engine, a compressor and turbine surround the two-stroke piston engine. Without valves, the air inlet and exhaust ports were holes in the cylinder walls, covered and uncovered by the pistons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napier_Nomad
Nomad-2.webp



 

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