Two boxes are on frictionless ramps (Speed and KE)

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In the discussion about two boxes on frictionless ramps, Box 1, which is lighter and on a steeper ramp, will achieve a greater speed than Box 2, which is heavier and on a less steep ramp. However, Box 2 will have greater kinetic energy at point B due to its higher mass, despite the speed difference. The conservation of mechanical energy principle is crucial, as both boxes start with gravitational potential energy that converts to kinetic energy as they descend. The gravitational potential energy is determined by the height and mass of each box.

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Homework Statement


Two boxes are resting on frictionless ramps. Box 1 is lighter and sits on a steep ramp while Box 2 is heavier and sits on ramp that is less steep. The boxes are released from the same point.

Which box (if either) has
a) The greater speed?
b) The greater kinetic energy at B


Homework Equations


Box 1 = Lighter and steeper ramp
Box 2 = Heaver and less steep ramp
Initial starting point = A
Displacement = B


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm sure its wrong. I don't really have a concise explanation.
a) Box 1 should have the greater speed because gravity will produce a greater effect on a higher slope.
b) Box 2 should have greater kinetic energy at B because it has more mass and thus can create higher momentum.
 
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Hint: Consider the fact that mechanical energy is conserved on the frictionless ramps. What can you deduce from that?
 
Doc Al said:
Hint: Consider the fact that mechanical energy is conserved on the frictionless ramps. What can you deduce from that?

Meaning there is no kinetic or potential energy present? So then neither box would be quicker than the other?
 
Koskesh said:
Meaning there is no kinetic or potential energy present?
:confused:

What's the initial energy of each box? The final energy? How do the speeds compare?
 
Hmm.. no initial energy? Marketing grad here boss, bear with me.. lol.
 
Both boxes start out at some initial height (presumably the same for both boxes) so they have gravitational potential energy. What's the expression for gravitational PE as a function of height (with respect to the ground)?
 
Work? F x D?
 
Expression for Grav. Potential energy when the body is close to the earth?
 
Koskesh said:
Work? F x D?
That is the work done by a constant force F over a displacement d.

Think about the expression for grav. potential energy..
 

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