Two Inverted Pendulums connected by a rope

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The discussion revolves around the complexities of solving a physics problem involving two inverted pendulums connected by a rope. The original poster acknowledges a mistake in their initial solution, clarifying that the dynamics change significantly when using a rope instead of a rod. Participants emphasize the need for a clear problem statement to provide accurate assistance, with one suggesting a systematic approach to find the system's acceleration and force balance equations. The conversation highlights the advanced nature of the problem, indicating it requires a deeper understanding of physics concepts. Overall, the thread underscores the importance of clarity and methodical analysis in tackling complex physics problems.
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Homework Statement
Given: two inverted pendulums with stiffnesses K1 and K2 and masses M1 and M2 are connected
by a rope (as shown in the PDF)

Find: maximum tension force, T
Relevant Equations
T=(F/(K1+K2)*(K1-K2)
Hi everyone.

Please see the problem with my solution attached and let me know if you have other solutions

Thank you very much in advance.
 

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oh sorry my solution is wrong. It is correct if they're connected by a rod not a rope
 
I assume the whole system is accelerating, so the masses are significant.
 
if it's a rope then we need to find the accelerations at different positions. Then multiply maximum accelerations by masses and find the summation of forces
 
I think it's an advanced problem far from introductory physics level
 
Deegee said:
I think it's an advanced problem far from introductory physics level
It depends.. please post the original statement of the problem, word for word. (Or is it not in English?)
 
I created the problem. What does English have to do with this?
 
are you implying that my English is bad?
 
it was dictated to me in my dream by an old Japanese guy
 
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very smart scientist who can only speak Japanese
 
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Deegee said:
I created the problem. What does English have to do with this?
As I implied in post #3, the set up is not entirely clear.
Are we to take
  • the base as sliding on a smooth surface,
  • F as a constant unopposed force,
  • the system to be in steady state?
If so, the first step I would take is to find the acceleration of the system, the second to create a variable for the displacement of the masses relative to the base, and the third to write the force balance equations on the masses.
 
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