Two Satellites in Parallel Orbits

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The problem involves two Earth satellites in parallel orbits with radii of 6700 km and 6701 km, which pass each other 1 km apart. The question seeks to determine how long it will be until they are again 1 km apart.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the distances traveled by the satellites and their respective radii, considering the proportionality of their angular measures.
  • There is an exploration of calculating the orbital periods of the satellites and how this information might contribute to solving the problem.
  • Questions arise regarding the expression of the angle between the satellites' radial vectors as a function of time, particularly focusing on angular velocity and the implications of their initial positions.
  • Some participants suggest considering the conditions under which the angle between the satellites returns to zero or a multiple of \(2\pi\).

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing calculations of orbital periods and engaging in reasoning about angular relationships. There is a recognition of the need to express the angle between the satellites' radial vectors over time, and some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between angular velocity and time.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. The problem setup involves specific parameters related to the satellites' orbits and their initial conditions.

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Homework Statement


Two Earth satellites are in parallel orbits with radii 6700 km and 6701 km. One day they pass each other, 1 km apart, along a line radially outward from the earth. How long will it be until they are again 1 km apart?


Homework Equations


s=r*θ


The Attempt at a Solution


I have an idea that when the two satellites are again 1km apart, they should have the same radian measure. Therefore, if s_{1}=r_{1}θ and s_{2}=r_{2}θ, then \frac{s_{1}}{r_{1}}=\frac{s_{2}}{r_{2}}. But this is just a proportion and I can't find a way to the time required.

At the moment, I have an idea of substituting a value for s2 and then find s1. Then I compare the time taken by each satellite to cover the required distance, if they two values of time do match, then it will be the final answer...
 
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LovePhys said:

Homework Statement


Two Earth satellites are in parallel orbits with radii 6700 km and 6701 km. One day they pass each other, 1 km apart, along a line radially outward from the earth. How long will it be until they are again 1 km apart?


Homework Equations


s=r*θ


The Attempt at a Solution


I have an idea that when the two satellites are again 1km apart, they should have the same radian measure. Therefore, if s_{1}=r_{1}θ and s_{2}=r_{2}θ, then \frac{s_{1}}{r_{1}}=\frac{s_{2}}{r_{2}}. But this is just a proportion and I can't find a way to the time required.

At the moment, I have an idea of substituting a value for s2 and then find s1. Then I compare the time taken by each satellite to cover the required distance, if they two values of time do match, then it will be the final answer...
Can you find the orbital period for each satellite (the time it takes to complete one complete orbit)?

AM
 
@Andrew Mason

Thanks for your reply.
Yes, I have found the orbital period for both using the equation T^2=\frac{4\pi^2r^3}{GM}, specifically T1≈5456.053s and T2≈5457.274s. Yet, I still cannot see how this helps...
 
Think about the rendez-vous situation in terms of the orbital angle. Let's say at the initial rendez-vous the angle was zero for both satellites. What will it be at the next one?
 
LovePhys said:
@Andrew Mason

Thanks for your reply.
Yes, I have found the orbital period for both using the equation T^2=\frac{4\pi^2r^3}{GM}, specifically T1≈5456.053s and T2≈5457.274s. Yet, I still cannot see how this helps...
Can you now express the angle between their respective radial vectors as a function of time? (hint: find the difference in angular velocity and relate that to the angle between their respective radial vectors).

AM
 
@voko and Andrew Mason

Thank you very much.
I can easily find angular velocity ω=\frac{2\pi}{T}. Also, since this is uniform circular motion, I then think that θ=ωt, so the angle between radial vectors as a function of time is: \Deltaθ=t(ω_{1}-ω_{2}). But \Deltaθ=0 only when t=0 (initial condition). Please tell me if I am missing something...

Thank you!
 
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LovePhys said:
But \Deltaθ=0 only when t=0 (initial condition).

What about ## \Delta \theta = 2 \pi n ##, where ## n ## is integer?
 
@voko

Yes! Why didn't I think about that? Thanks a lot, I got the correct answer! Now I just let n=1 and then find t. :)
 

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