Two vectors are parallel if their cross product is 0?

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The discussion revolves around determining the value of 'b' in the vector equation involving two vectors, u and v, and how they relate to another vector w in terms of directionality. The subject area is vector mathematics, specifically focusing on conditions for vector parallelism.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the conditions for vector parallelism, including the use of cross products and component ratios. Questions arise about how to express these conditions mathematically and how to find the specific value of 'b' that aligns the vectors.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and asking clarifying questions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of ratios of vector components to determine parallelism, and the potential use of visual aids is suggested to aid understanding.

Contextual Notes

There is some confusion regarding the initial problem statement, particularly the inclusion of 'b' in the vector v. Participants are also questioning the applicability of the cross product in this context, noting its complexity in two dimensions.

teffy3001
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the question is:

u = 9i-6j
and
v = 5i+bj

for what value of b would u-v point in the same direction as w = 7i-3j?

can anyone help me get started on this problem, I am not looking for answers just a little bit of help because I'm confused.. thanks
 
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There's no 'b' in your problem statement. What is it?
 
Dick, the b is in the v component. I missed it at first glance too.
Anyway teffy, what conditions do you know that tests if two vectors are parallel?
 
v=5i + bj

thats where the b is..
 
Ooops. Missed it. So u-v=4i+(-6-b)j. Now answer arunbg's question.
 
um that two vectors are parallel if their cross product is 0?...
 
So what do you get when you take the cross product?
 
i think that's where my problem lies now...im not sure how to find that out.
 
That's one way. But in only really works in three dimensions. More generally vectors A and B point in the same direction if A=k*B for some k>0 (any nonzero k if you don't mind them pointing in opposite directions). So you could set the ratio of the components equal.
 
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okay so then how do i find the value of b?
 
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Write down expressions for the ratio of the i components and the ratio of the j components and set them equal.
 
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Pictures often help with vectors!

(Cross-product will work, but, as you've found out, it's not particularly easy, and there is a simpler way)

If you're stuck, it often helps to draw a picture. :smile:

You did head this as a vectors problem, rather than an algebra one.

So draw (only roughly) the two vectors you have to make parallel!

What trigonometric thing could you measue to check if they're parallel?
 

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