Two waves Interfereing resulting waves interferes with another wave

  • Thread starter Thread starter c-murda
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Wave Waves
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the interference of three sinusoidal waves, specifically how to mathematically combine them. The original poster presents two waves that interfere with each other, followed by a third wave that interacts with the resulting wave. The problem is situated within the context of wave mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore how to add the first two waves together before incorporating the third wave. Questions arise about the necessity of converting degrees to radians and the application of trigonometric identities for adding sinusoidal functions.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, discussing the use of trigonometric identities and confirming understanding of wave addition. Some guidance has been provided regarding the mathematical approach, though multiple interpretations of the problem are still being explored.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of constraints related to the original poster's physics textbook not covering sinusoidal waves, which may limit their resources for understanding the topic. Additionally, a deadline for assistance has been noted, indicating urgency in resolving the questions raised.

c-murda
Messages
67
Reaction score
0
[SOLVED] Two waves Interfereing...resulting waves interferes with another wave

Homework Statement


Two traveling sinusoidal waves given by

Y1(x,t) = 3.87 sin (2.00x - 40.0t) and Y2(x,t) = 3.87 sin(2.00x - 40.0t + 120deg.)

interfere. The resulting wave interferes with

Y3 ( x, t) = 3.87 sin ( 2.00x- 40.0t)


Homework Equations







The Attempt at a Solution



i am confused...do i add the two first waves together, then add that wave with the third wave? do i need to change my degrees to radians?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Welcome to PF!
c-murda said:
i am confused...do i add the two first waves together, then add that wave with the third wave?
Sounds good to me!
c-murda said:
do i need to change my degrees to radians?
I shouldn't think so.
 
alright so i guess i need to know how to add waves...
 
There are some rather obvious trig identities that you should be using here. Do you have a table of trig identities? If so, can you find one in which two sine functions are being added together?
 
i have my physics book which doesn't go to sinusoidal waves
 
c-murda said:
i have my physics book which doesn't go to sinusoidal waves
Try looking for the angle-sum identity for sine. If you can't find it in your physics text, try a mathematics text or alternatively have a look on the internet :wink:
 
thnx... you mean like

sin(A+B) = sinAcosB + cosAsinB

i don't understand how that applies to the waves adding tho
 
c-murda said:
thnx... you mean like

sin(A+B) = sinAcosB + cosAsinB
Sorry, my bad! I meant sum to product formulae :redface:
c-murda said:
i don't understand how that applies to the waves adding tho
Well, your waves are sinusoidal functions aren't they?
 
c-murda said:
i have my physics book which doesn't go to sinusoidal waves

I'm talking about trig identities that come from a typical course in College Algebra and Trigonometry or Precalculus. Surely such a math course would be a prerequisite for your physics course?
 
  • #10
ynet(x, t) = y1(x, t) + y2(x, t)

= Asin(wt - kx) + Asin(wt - kx + f)

= [2Acos 1/2(theta)]sin(wt -kx + 1/2 f).
 
Last edited:
  • #11
And what is "theta"?
 
  • #12
originally its 120 so...theta would be 60 for the first two interference and 30 for the 2nd interference?
 
  • #13
sry i don't why the f's are f's they should be thetas
 
  • #14
c-murda said:
sry i don't why the f's are f's they should be thetas

Right. And it doesn't matter if you call them all f's or thetas, as long as they are the same symbol.

So there is your formula for adding two sinusoidal waves with the same amplitude and frequency, but different phase angles.
 
  • #15
ok so now i have a few more questions about the reamaing part of the problem.

its ask for
amplitude:
2ym cos 120/2 = 2*3.87*cos 60 = 3.87 (interference of 1+2)
2ym cos 60/2 = 2*3.87*cos 30 = 6.70(interference of resultant and 3)

correct?

Phase = 120/2 = 60 (interference of 1+2)
60 / 2 = 30 (interference of resultant and 3)

wavelength = i need help here...isn't it lambda?
defined as 2pi/k

frequency
defined as w = 2piF ; F is frequency?
defined as w = 2pi/T ; since f = 1/T
so F = 1/T

period:


wave number
this is k right?
 
Last edited:
  • #16
i have 715 deadline please help
 
  • #17
You are correct on all counts.
 
  • #18
period

what about the period
 
  • #19
c-murda said:
wavelength = i need help here...isn't it lambda?
defined as 2pi/k

so does that mean the final wavelength will be just pi?

c-murda said:
frequency
defined as w = 2piF ; F is frequency?
defined as w = 2pi/T ; since f = 1/T
so F = 1/T

so does that mean final frequency will be 6.36?
period:

c-murda said:
wave number
this is k right?

that mean k= 2?
 
  • #20
Those are all correct. And since you got the frequency, you can easily get the period.
 
  • #21
for the final period would it be .157?
 
  • #22
Yes indeedy.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
3K
Replies
20
Views
5K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
6K
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
3K