U233 immediate fission products ?

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The discussion centers on the immediate fission products of Uranium-233 (U-233) and how they compare to those of Uranium-235 (U-235). Participants explore the characteristics of fission reactions for both isotopes, including neutron production and sustainability of chain reactions.

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  • One participant inquires about the immediate fission products of U-233 and whether they are similar to those of U-235, suggesting that the fission reactions produce different isotopes of barium and krypton.
  • Another participant notes that while the fission product elements are generally similar, U-233 has two fewer neutrons than U-235, which may influence the fission process.
  • A question is raised regarding the self-sustainability of U-233 chain reactions, given that it releases fewer neutrons compared to U-235.
  • Discussion includes the reproduction factor (η) and the number of neutrons produced per fission (ν) for U-233, U-235, and Pu-239, with specific values provided for thermal and fast neutrons.
  • Participants mention various reactor designs and configurations that could optimize the use of U-233, including lattice arrangements and moderation systems.
  • A resource is shared that allows comparison of fission product spectra from different nuclear fuels.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of neutron production for the sustainability of U-233 chain reactions, and there is no consensus on the best reactor design or configuration for utilizing U-233.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes references to specific neutron production values and reactor designs, but does not resolve the implications of these factors on the overall viability of U-233 as a fuel source.

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Hi, what are the immediate fission products of U233 ? Is the first fission reaction of U233 same as U235 producing Ba and Kr but just different isotopes than U235 ? I would appreciate any help.

Thanks
 
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Anuj06 said:
Hi, what are the immediate fission products of U233 ? Is the first fission reaction of U233 same as U235 producing Ba and Kr but just different isotopes than U235 ? I would appreciate any help.

Thanks
The fission product elements are much the same, however, one starts with 2 fewer neutrons.

U-235 + n => U-236* => f.p. + 2 or 3 n

U-233 + n => U-234* => f.p. + 2 or 3 n

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v161/n4092/pdf/161520a0.pdf

https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=2546513&postcount=9
 
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Thank you ! But, then a small question, is U233 chain reaction self sustainable since it release fewer neutrons ?
 
One would be interested in

η = reproduction factor = number of neutrons produced per neutron absorbed in fuel
> 2 implies breeding is possible

ν (nu) = number of neutrons produced per fission


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Isotope  Thermal η   Fast η
  U-235      2.07        2.30
  Pu-239     2.11        2.70
  U-233      2.30        2.45
Ref: http://www.if.uidaho.edu/~gunner/ME443-543/LectureNotes/LMFBR.pdf

http://energyfromthorium.com/2006/07/29/wash-1097-appendix-a-reactor-physics/
It's probably better to obtain a copy of WASH-1097.

One can also construct a tighter (hex or triangular) lattice similar to that of a VVER-1000. Or one could use a CANDU (deuterium moderated) system, or a graphite moderated system using SiC/C clad fuel. Flouride salt is another possibility.

And one can minimize the parastic absorption of neutrons by exclusing Ni-based alloys from the reactor internals, to the extent possible.

This might be of interest.
http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/purl/4505731-QrJfWh/4505731.pdf
 
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