Ugly trig and exponential problem

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The discussion revolves around the equation 8*sin(t) - 16*cos(t) = 9*exp(-t/2), with a focus on finding an algebraic solution rather than using a calculator. Attempts to solve the equation included converting the exponential part into a Fourier series, which proved unsuccessful due to the complexity of the terms and the need for a defined period. The user also explored converting sine and cosine into exponential terms but encountered issues with imaginary numbers, confirming that the solution isn't complex. Ultimately, the conclusion is that the equation is too non-linear for an algebraic solution, leading to the decision to rely on graphical methods instead. The discussion highlights the challenges of solving mixed trigonometric and exponential equations algebraically.
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Homework Statement


This isn't a problem, I'm just obsessed with analyzing a trig/exp equation algebraically instead of with a calculator.

8*sin(t) - 16*cos(t) = 9*exp(-t/2)


Homework Equations



See part (1.) above...


The Attempt at a Solution



I tried converting the exp part into a Fourier series; if you graph the equation, this method recommends itself due to the multiple solutions. I didn't have much success with this method, though, since the first term in the Fourier series contains two exp terms. In addition, the Fourier series requires the definition of an integrable "period", and I wouldn't know what to do for that.

I also tried converting the sine and cosine terms into exp terms with complex arguments, but then I've got imaginary numbers all over the place, and I already know the answer isn't complex from the solution obtained by calculator, which was verified graphically.

Any recommendations would be grand.
 
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gulfcoastfella said:

Homework Statement


This isn't a problem, I'm just obsessed with analyzing a trig/exp equation algebraically instead of with a calculator.

8*sin(t) - 16*cos(t) = 9*exp(-t/2)


Homework Equations



See part (1.) above...


The Attempt at a Solution



I tried converting the exp part into a Fourier series; if you graph the equation, this method recommends itself due to the multiple solutions. I didn't have much success with this method, though, since the first term in the Fourier series contains two exp terms. In addition, the Fourier series requires the definition of an integrable "period", and I wouldn't know what to do for that.

I also tried converting the sine and cosine terms into exp terms with complex arguments, but then I've got imaginary numbers all over the place, and I already know the answer isn't complex from the solution obtained by calculator, which was verified graphically.

Any recommendations would be grand.

I forgot to mention another method I attempted...
I converted both sides of the equation (the trig side and the exp side) to Taylor series. The terms line up beautifully, but the constants multiplied on each term in the original equation throw the equations out of whack.
 
I've decided that this equation is so far past non-linear that it can't be solved algebraically. I'm going to go with the graphical intersection method, and let the problem go.
 
Did you try writing sin(x) as (e^{ix}- e^{-ix})/(2i) and cos(x) as (e^{ix}+ e^{-ix})/2 so everything is in terms of the exponential?
 
HallsofIvy said:
Did you try writing sin(x) as (e^{ix}- e^{-ix})/(2i) and cos(x) as (e^{ix}+ e^{-ix})/2 so everything is in terms of the exponential?

I tried that, but couldn't figure out where to go with it.
 
There is no algebraic solution to this.
 
Avodyne said:
There is no algebraic solution to this.

As I suspected... is there a reason or proof or reference that you can link me to?

Thanks.
 

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