UL Factory Inspection: What to Know & Who Pays

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around UL factory inspections, including their frequency, payment responsibilities, and comparisons with other inspection agencies like CSA and TUV. Participants explore the implications of these inspections for manufacturers and the costs associated with certification.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that UL factory inspections occur 2-4 times a year and inquire about who bears the cost.
  • It is noted by several participants that the factory is responsible for paying for the inspection and certification.
  • One participant mentions that if a product is manufactured externally, such as in China, the Chinese factory pays for the UL factory inspection, but costs may be passed on to customers.
  • There is a question raised about whether the payment structure is similar for other agencies like CSA and TUV, with some uncertainty expressed regarding their policies.
  • One participant offers to check with a colleague who specializes in agency approvals for more information on other agencies' inspection processes.
  • Another participant asserts that all agencies, including CSA and TUV, have mandatory factory inspections but expresses uncertainty about who pays for them.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the factory pays for UL inspections, but there is uncertainty regarding the payment structure for equivalent inspections by other agencies. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of payment responsibilities for CSA and TUV inspections.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the payment structure and inspection frequency are not fully substantiated, and there are limitations in the information regarding other agencies' practices.

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Any one know about UL factory inspection?
I think they visit the factory 2-4 times a year.
Who pays for it - does the factory take care of it.
Is there something like a UL listed factory.
 
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likephysics said:
Any one know about UL factory inspection?
I think they visit the factory 2-4 times a year.
Who pays for it - does the factory take care of it.
Is there something like a UL listed factory.

Here you go!

http://www.ul.com/global/eng/pages/solutions/services/finder/detail/index.jsp?cpath=/global/eng/pages/solutions/services/finder/detail/data/305_factory-inspections.xml
UL said:
UL factory inspections provide customized product inspection support, based on customers' predefined parameters or customer-accepted specifications. These inspections provide retailers, buyers and original equipment manufacturers confidence in the quality of the suppliers that they work with as well as the reliability of the products that are sourced from these suppliers.
 
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And yes, the factory pays for the inspection/certification.
 
berkeman said:
And yes, the factory pays for the inspection/certification.

berkeman, If an organization is getting UL certification for a product, they have to pay for certification.
If the organization is getting it manufactured externally like in China, the Chinese factory pays for UL factory inspection?
 
likephysics said:
berkeman, If an organization is getting UL certification for a product, they have to pay for certification.
If the organization is getting it manufactured externally like in China, the Chinese factory pays for UL factory inspection?

Yes and yes.

Of course, the contract manufacturing factory in China will pass the cost of certification along to their customers, as they do their other operating costs. But the cost is shared among several manufacturers typically, so it really doesn't add much to the product cost that a company pays to the contract manufacturer.
 
berkeman, do you know if this is only for UL or do factories pay for UL equivalent factory inspection also like CSA, TUV.
 
likephysics said:
berkeman, do you know if this is only for UL or do factories pay for UL equivalent factory inspection also like CSA, TUV.

I don't know that offhand, but you should be able to check the websites for CSA and TUV to see if they have an "inspections" section like the UL website does. If you're not able to figure it out, I can e-mail the question to a guy in my company over in the UK who specializes in agency approvals.
 
All the agencies (CSA, TUV etc) have mandatory factory inspections. But I am not sure if the factory pays for it.
 

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