Unable to find the intersection between a circle and ellipse

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The discussion revolves around finding the intersection between a circle and an ellipse defined by the equations x^2 + xy + y^2 = 18 and x^2 + y^2 = 12. Initial attempts to manipulate the equations led to the conclusion that xy = 6, but errors in substituting values were identified. A key point was the realization that substituting y = 6/x into the circle equation resulted in a quartic equation, x^4 - 12x^2 + 36 = 0. The correct approach involves solving for x using the proper substitution of xy = 6 as x = 6/y, which leads to valid solutions. Ultimately, the discussion emphasizes the importance of careful substitution and manipulation of equations in solving for intersections.
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Homework Statement
Find the intersection/system of equation between a parabola and circle
Relevant Equations
x^2+xy+y^2=18; x^2+y^2=12
Given:
x^2+xy+y^2=18
x^2+y^2=12

Attempt:
(x^2+y^2)+xy=18
12+xy=18
xy=6

y^2=12-x^2
(12)+xy=18
xy=6

Attempt 2:
xy=6
x=y/6
y^2/36+(y/6)y+y^2=18
43/36y^2=18
y ≠ root(6) <- should be the answer

Edit:
Just realized you can't plug the modified equation back into its original self

I plugged y=6/x into the circle instead and got:
x^2+36/x^2=12
now I have x^4+36=12x^2
x^4-12x^2+36=0
 
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lotur512 said:
Homework Statement:: Find the intersection/system of equation between a parabola and circle
Relevant Equations:: x^2+xy+y^2=18; x^2+y^2=12

Given:
x^2+xy+y^2=18
x^2+y^2=12

Attempt:
(x^2+y^2)+xy=18
12+xy=18
xy=6

y^2=12-x^2
(12)+xy=18
xy=6

Attempt 2:
xy=6
x=y/6
y^2/36+(y/6)y+y^2=18
43/36y^2=18
y ≠ root(6) <- should be the answer

Edit:
Just realized you can't plug the modified equation back into its original self

I plugged y=6/x into the circle instead and got:
x^2+36/x^2=12
now I have x^4+36=12x^2
x^4-12x^2+36=0
Your last equation is quadratic in form. Let ##u = x^2## to get an actual quadratic, and solve for u, then substititute back to get values for x.
 
lotur512 said:
Attempt 2:
xy=6
x=y/6
...

Edit:
Just realized you can't plug the modified equation back into its original self
...
No. That wasn't what caused your difficulty.

If you solve
##xy=6## for ##x##, you get ##x=\dfrac {6}{y}## rather than ##x=\dfrac {y}{6}##. Plugging that into either equation gives the correct solution.
 

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