Uncertainty Principle: Computing Δx & Δp for a Particle in a 1D Box

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The discussion revolves around applying the uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics to a particle in a one-dimensional box. Participants are tasked with calculating the uncertainties in position (Δx) and momentum (Δp) for the ground state of a quantum-mechanical particle of mass m confined in a box of length a.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the formula for uncertainty and its application to position and momentum. There is confusion about how to utilize the ΔB equation and whether it should be integrated into the Schrödinger Equation. Some participants emphasize the need to compute expectation values and clarify the definition of uncertainty for observables.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring the necessary steps to compute the uncertainties. Some guidance has been provided regarding the computation of expectation values and the importance of the wavefunction, but there is no consensus on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that they have previously covered the wavefunctions for the infinite square well potential in class, which may influence their understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement


The uncertainty ΔB in some observable B is given by a formula ΔB = √<B^2> - <B>^2.
Use this formula to determine the uncertainty in position, Δx, and momentum Δp, for the ground state of a quantum-mechanical particle of mass m is a 1-D 'box' of length a, and show that the uncertainty principle holds.


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ChemMajor4lyf said:

Homework Statement


The uncertainty ΔB in some observable B is given by a formula ΔB = √<B^2> - <B>^2.
Use this formula to determine the uncertainty in position, Δx, and momentum Δp, for the ground state of a quantum-mechanical particle of mass m is a 1-D 'box' of length a, and show that the uncertainty principle holds.


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The Attempt at a Solution


What have you done so far on this problem?
 
<x> = ∫x abs(ψ)^2 where n=1 and length = a

<x>^2 = (a/2)^2 = a^2/4

and the momentum operator = -i(h/2(pi)) ∂/∂x

I'm just really confused on where to start. I don't understand what I'm suppose to do with the ΔB equation. Plug it into the Schrödinger Equation?
 
ChemMajor4lyf said:
<x> = ∫x abs(ψ)^2 where n=1 and length = a

<x>^2 = (a/2)^2 = a^2/4

and the momentum operator = -i(h/2(pi)) ∂/∂x

I'm just really confused on where to start. I don't understand what I'm suppose to do with the ΔB equation. Plug it into the Schrödinger Equation?

The B equation is just showing you what the definition of uncertainty is for any observable. So, "B" here represents an arbitrary quantity.

This means that the uncertainty in x is given by \Delta x = \sqrt{\langle x^2 \rangle - \langle x \rangle^2}. Similarly, \Delta p = \sqrt{\langle p^2 \rangle - \langle p \rangle^2}. Again, the purpose of giving you the B equation was just to state that this definition holds true generically for any observable.

So it's pretty clear that in order to compute the uncertainty, you need to figure out how to compute the expectation value of an operator. The expectation value is the thing in angle brackets. From what you've posted above, you seem to know how to do that already. You compute the expectation value of a quantity by integrating the quantity in question multiplied by the modulus squared of the wavefunction. This integral takes place over all space i.e. over the entire domain over which the wavefunction is defined.

So, in order to compute the expectation value, you need to know what the wavefunction is.. For THAT (determining the wavefunction), you need to solve the Schrödinger equation for this particular 1-D potential, and then take ground state solution. However, I suspect that you've already gone over this solution in class, and therefore you have computed the wavefunctions for this "infinite square well" potential already.
 

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