Uncovering the Mystery of Thompson's Flying Ring

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mechanics of Thompson's flying ring demonstration, specifically how an aluminum ring can be propelled upward when placed above a magnetic coil connected to an AC power source. Participants explore the underlying principles of electromagnetism and the effects of oscillating magnetic fields on conductive materials.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for an explanation of how the flying ring works and why it is propelled upward despite aluminum being non-magnetic.
  • Another participant explains that the oscillating magnetic field induces an electromotive force (emf) and current in the ring, which leads to an upward force on the ring.
  • A subsequent post reiterates the previous explanation about the induced current and the resulting upward force but requests a diagram for clarity.
  • Another participant describes the magnetic field's characteristics, noting that it weakens with height and has a horizontal component that contributes to the upward force on the current in the ring.
  • A question is raised about the differences in flight height between smaller aluminum rings and copper rings, prompting a brief discussion on the weight of the materials.
  • One participant suggests that aluminum's lighter weight is a factor in its ability to fly higher than copper.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the basic principles of electromagnetism at play but explore different aspects of the phenomenon, such as the effects of material properties and dimensions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific reasons for the differences in flight height between the aluminum and copper rings.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the behavior of the magnetic field and the properties of the materials involved are not fully explored, and the discussion does not provide a detailed mathematical analysis of the forces at play.

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Can anyone explain how flying ring works?
like the demostration whith a magnetic coil connected to AC poer and an aluminum ring. the ring was placed on the top of the coil and althought aluminum is a non magnetic, the ring was thrown to the ceiling.
can anyone tell me why there was force on the ring
and
why the ring went up?
juz like this

WWW.physics.montana.edu/demonstrati...tyandmagnetism/demos/thompsonsflyingring.html
 
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The oscillating magnetic field induces an emf and thus a current in the ring.
The magnetic field exerts an upward force on the currentin the ring.
 
pam said:
The oscillating magnetic field induces an emf and thus a current in the ring.
The magnetic field exerts an upward force on the currentin the ring.

can u show me by darwing th diagram?
cuz i m not quiet get how it works
thanks for helping
 
I'll try to describe it in words. The magnetic field is mostly upward but it weakens as it gets higher, which leads a slight horizontal component to the field lines.
The oscillating B field induces current in the horizontal plane of the ring.
The horizontal component of B exerts an upward force on the current in the ring.
 
one more question
why a smaller aluminum ring will fly higher, and a copper will lower ?
 
Aluminum is lighter.
 

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