Undergrad requirements for Medical Physics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the undergraduate requirements and preparatory steps for pursuing a PhD in medical physics. Participants explore the necessity of biology or anatomy courses, the availability of internships, and the value of undergraduate research in this field.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the necessity of biology or anatomy courses before applying to a PhD program in medical physics, expressing uncertainty about which course would be most beneficial.
  • Another participant suggests that while not strictly required, having a general understanding of cellular processes and anatomy could be advantageous, especially for graduate-level courses.
  • There is a mention of the AAPM offering financial support for undergraduates seeking medical physics internships, with suggestions for alternative internships in radiation safety or health physics.
  • Some participants propose that internships related to medical imaging could also be valuable, with recommendations to explore opportunities with major companies in the field.
  • Undergraduate research is discussed as beneficial for applications, with the idea that experience in any physics-related research can enhance a candidate's profile.
  • Concerns are raised about the competitiveness of medical physics programs and the evolving requirements for applicants, indicating a need for careful planning.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the necessity of specific courses and the types of internships that would be most beneficial. There is no clear consensus on the best preparatory steps, reflecting differing perspectives on the requirements for entering medical physics programs.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that specific program requirements can vary, and there is uncertainty regarding the availability of internships and the evolving nature of application competitiveness in medical physics.

Who May Find This Useful

Undergraduate students in physics or engineering considering a career in medical physics, as well as those interested in related fields such as radiation safety or medical imaging.

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Hi,

I'm an undergrad in engineering physics and I'm thinking about becoming a medical physicist. Do I need to have a biology or anatomy course before applying to a PhD program, and if so, which one is best to have?

Also, since medical physics internships seem pretty rare, what other kinds of internships would be useful? I've spent a few days job-shadowing a medical physicist but he's in a private hospital that isn't really set up for a longer internship.

Finally, would undergrad research be useful or is there something else I should be doing in my spare time?

I'd appreciate any advice. Not too many people at my tech school know much about this field so I'm trying to figure it out on my own.
 
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PBD said:
I'm an undergrad in engineering physics and I'm thinking about becoming a medical physicist. Do I need to have a biology or anatomy course before applying to a PhD program, and if so, which one is best to have?
In general you don't "need" either, but each program has it's own requirements, so it's worth browsing the specific entrance requirements for the schools you think you may be interested in.

That said, I think it's highly advantageous to come in with a general understanding of cellular processes such as the cell cycle and mitosis at a first-year undergraduate level as the graduate radiobiology course builds on this. You can learn it as you go, but I'd rather be spending my time reading up on the interesting stuff rather than reviewing the basics by the time I'm doing the course. I would offer more-or-less the same advice for anatomy and physiology. It will certainly help to have a background in it when you start, but most medical physics programs that I'm familiar with assume that you don't have it when you're admitted.

If I had to chose between the two, I'd go with biology, but that's not a strong recommendation - just my opinion if you've got a slot to fill and you're really on the fence.

Also, since medical physics internships seem pretty rare, what other kinds of internships would be useful? I've spent a few days job-shadowing a medical physicist but he's in a private hospital that isn't really set up for a longer internship.
I think the AAPM actually offers financial support for a few undergrads to take on medical physics positions every year. It's worth looking up if you're interested.

Related things you could try would include radiation safety or health physics offices. These would be big at, for example nuclear plants, or radioisotope production facilities.

Anyting related to medical imaging is good as well. I'm not sure exactly what's out there, but it might be worth looking into summer interships with some of the big guns like Phillips or GE - or even some of the smaller guns. (Look up the vendor list for RSNA).

Finally, would undergrad research be useful or is there something else I should be doing in my spare time?
Absolutely. It doesn't have to be in medical physics either. Just like any other branch of physics, experience in research can bolster your application by allowing you to develop additional skill outside of your formal academic training, and just by giving your referees something more substantial to talk about on their reference letters.
 
Choppy said:
If I had to chose between the two, I'd go with biology, but that's not a strong recommendation - just my opinion if you've got a slot to fill and you're really on the fence.
Good... I think I stand a lot better chance of getting biology worked into my schedule, since there are so many class sections of it as compared to the rest.

I think the AAPM actually offers financial support for a few undergrads to take on medical physics positions every year. It's worth looking up if you're interested.

Related things you could try would include radiation safety or health physics offices. These would be big at, for example nuclear plants, or radioisotope production facilities.

Anyting related to medical imaging is good as well. I'm not sure exactly what's out there, but it might be worth looking into summer interships with some of the big guns like Phillips or GE - or even some of the smaller guns. (Look up the vendor list for RSNA).
I saw the AAPM internships on their website, but there were only about five, so I thought I should look around for alternatives. That's a good idea about RSNA, thanks. We have a couple of big job & internship fairs each year so I could cross-reference with some of those companies.

Absolutely. It doesn't have to be in medical physics either. Just like any other branch of physics, experience in research can bolster your application by allowing you to develop additional skill outside of your formal academic training, and just by giving your referees something more substantial to talk about on their reference letters.
Good, I had planned to do senior research/design with a prof in nuclear physics, but as I mentioned, medical physics is not really an option right here at my school.

Also, I'm not 100% sure about medical physics so it's great to hear that internships/research in related areas would be helpful.

Thanks a lot for your advice, esp. about the internships. It sounds like I'm on the right track but it seems like medical physics is getting more competitive and the requirements more strict than they used to be, plus my schedule is pretty tight... so I just didn't want to accidentally screw it up.
 

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