Undergrad who loves math but doesn't want to research

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The discussion centers around the career aspirations of a mathematics undergraduate who enjoys various fields of math but is not interested in pursuing research or academia. The scope includes potential career paths in applied mathematics, programming, and related fields, as well as the participant's concerns about marketability and relevant experience.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster expresses a strong interest in applied mathematics and problem-solving but lacks relevant internship experience.
  • Some participants suggest tutoring or teaching as potential career options with a bachelor's degree in mathematics.
  • Questions arise regarding the original poster's aversion to research, with some participants probing the reasons behind this choice.
  • One participant proposes considering a graduate program in computer science, highlighting its relevance to applied discrete mathematics.
  • Another participant mentions statistics as a viable field for graduate studies, citing job opportunities and interesting work experiences.
  • A later reply offers a broader definition of research, suggesting that problem-solving often involves modifying existing methods, which may align with the original poster's interests.

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Participants generally agree that there are various career paths available for someone with a strong mathematics background who prefers applied work over research. However, there is no consensus on the best path or the necessity of research in problem-solving.

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The discussion reflects a range of perspectives on the nature of research and its relevance to applied mathematics, as well as differing opinions on career options outside of academia and finance.

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I'm a third year student on track to get a BS in Mathematics and a BA in Economics.

The economics was basically to make myself marketable and to prevent the college from making me graduate early. I'm really not interested in it. That's besides the point.

I love almost all fields of math. Combinatorics, geometry, analysis, algebra, numerical methods. I find it all very fascinating and love learning about it all. However, I'm not interested in doing research.

I'm looking for a career in applied math. I'd like to use what I've learned to solve problems. I'm more interested in discrete mathematics (algorithms, graphs, etc), and would love to apply all of this into an industry. I can program a computer, but I don't have any real experience with anything. I never did any relevant internships during the summer.

What options do I have? Am I screwed? Going down an actuarial track is my backup, but that sounds god awful. I'm not interested in finance or economics, but they are all backups.

Any interesting options for a guy who loves math, wants to use it, but doesn't want to stay in Academia or go into finance?
 
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You can likely become a tutor (or a teacher...) with at least a bachelor degree in Mathematics; meanwhile, you might offer your programming skills for pay or small profit.
 
Why don't you want to do research?
 
will.c said:
Why don't you want to do research?

I don't think I'd be very good at it. Besides, I like the idea of applying higher math to solve real world problems. I think it may mean getting a Masters degree in Applied Math.
 
Have you considered a computer science grad program? CS offers tons of interesting, hands-on, applied discrete math type problems.
 
Stats may be another field you might want to look into for Grad school. Lots of job opportunities with an MS and the work is often pretty cool. My brother is a statistician for the AMA and does lots of financial modeling for them. He even presents monthly report to the execs recommending how to improve the performance of the organization (who to fire, which departments to reorganize, how much to charge, etc.)
 
"research" is just another word for finding and solving problems.

except sometimes you have to modify the known methods to get them to apply to your problem. that's research. but you'll be doing that in any successful project at solving problems. I.e. if the known methods already apply perfectly to solve your problem then the problem is already solved.

So to me, there is no such thing as going out and looking at problems for which methods already exist and just applying them. Thats just computing, a machine can do that.

i guess occasionally there are situations where people have problems that can be solved by known method but the methods are not known to them, and they need someone who does know the methods.

those are usually interdisciplinary situations, where someone in one area has a problem that yields to methods known well in another area he is not trained in. so he brings in a specialist.

anyway, I am sure youll be fine at it if you like solving problems.
 
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