Undergraduate Major: Engineering vs Math/Physics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the decision-making process regarding choosing a career path between engineering and mathematics/physics. Participants explore the implications of pursuing a diverse range of theoretical interests versus specializing in a specific field, considering both academic and practical applications.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether to pursue engineering physics while taking graduate math and physics classes, questioning if engineering allows for the application of theoretical aspects of math and physics.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on the specific high-level math classes taken, indicating that this information could help in determining the best career option.
  • A participant lists advanced math courses taken and reflects on their enjoyment of theoretical math and physics, while also expressing doubt about long-term career satisfaction in research.
  • One participant suggests that engineering might be a suitable path for applying a broad skillset in math and physics, rather than specializing in research.
  • A graduate engineering student shares their experience, noting that graduate engineering involves significant theoretical work but emphasizes that real-world applications may differ from academic training.
  • Another participant questions whether a career in mathematics and physics could lead to opportunities in national labs, particularly in interdisciplinary fields like quantum gravity, while expressing skepticism about the relevance of modern physics in engineering.
  • One participant advises reaching out to engineers and working professionals to gain insights and suggests trying research to better understand personal fit.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the viability of engineering versus mathematics/physics careers, with no consensus reached on which path is definitively better. There are competing views on the applicability of theoretical knowledge in engineering and the potential for interdisciplinary research opportunities.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of their decisions, highlighting uncertainties regarding personal interests, career satisfaction, and the practical application of theoretical knowledge in different fields.

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So, I'm trying to decide which career to go into. I've already taken a bunch of high-leveled theoretical math and physics classes, and I've enjoyed and done well in them so far. However, I'm not specifically interested in a specific area of math and physics, mostly interested in a diverse array of areas, so I'm not sure if a research career would be the optimal choice for me since I would have to go into a specific field.
Would it be viable for me to continue doing engineering physics while taking graduate math and physics classes? Does working as an engineer allow me to use the theoretical aspects of math and physics as well? Or am I better off doing math and physics and continuing down the research/phd path?
 
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hey skychase, and welcome to pf! what math classes constitute "high-leveled theoretical"? what specifically have you taken, as this will shed light on what could be the best option for you. this being said, what do you plan on doing after graduation?
 
Hi. I have taken honors analysis I, II, linear algebra, abstract algebra, differential geometry, topology, algebraic topology, complex analysis, and taking graduate real analysis and linear algebra.
I really do not know what I plan on doing after graduation. I'm currently a first term sophomore and really enjoy doing theoretical math and physics, but I'm not sure if I'd enjoy doing it for a long time as a career. On the other hand, engineering seems like a likely route for me to apply my math and physics skillset as a whole, rather than gaining strong expertise in one specific field in research.
 
okay, so you have indeed taken a good amount of math (I wasnt sure if you were referring to first year calc and diff eq). this being said, i think you've answered your own question:

SkyChaser said:
I'm currently a first term sophomore and really enjoy doing theoretical math and physics, but I'm not sure if I'd enjoy doing it for a long time as a career. On the other hand, engineering seems like a likely route for me to apply my math and physics skillset as a whole, rather than gaining strong expertise in one specific field in research.

you probably shouldn't set to become a mathematician if youre losing interest. I'm actually a graduate engineering student (mechanical, specifically fluids) although my undergrad was in math. from experience, engineering at the graduate level (far different from undergrad) has what you're looking for. classes are heavy with vector/tensor calculus, PDE's, and also use the physical intuition that physics enjoys. linear algebra is prevalent, and complex analysis manifests itself too.

however, this is simply the academic side. after you get your degrees (and phd or masters should you decide to) all engineers i talk to and have researched with say the "real world" is totally different. all the analysis is a right of passage, but is not practiced.

i'm sure some exist that use the theory in a deep way like we do in school, but i have never met one.

hope this helps!
 
i should say, this includes the "hot shot" engineers at boeing I've talked with.
 
Would I be better off simply doing mathematics and physics as a career and work in a national lab without having to work in academia since I'm only interested in research? I suppose I could work in a field that incorporates interdisciplinary field like quantum gravity. I don't think engineering really uses modern physics such as gr and qm as much, do they?
 
these questions are good ones, but for sure i cannot answer them entirely. the best way to know is to start contacting some engineers and working professionals (perhaps starting with your professors). see if your professors are conducting research and if you can help. it definitely isn't for everyone. i recommend trying research first.
 

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