Understand Lewis Dot Structures: Cl F & Triple Bonds

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The discussion centers on understanding Lewis Dot Structures, specifically for molecules like ClF and C2H2. Participants emphasize the importance of the octet rule, noting that halogens like chlorine and fluorine have seven valence electrons and share one to achieve stability. The conversation also clarifies the formation of double and triple bonds, particularly in carbon and nitrogen compounds, highlighting that these bonds occur when atoms can share more than one pair of electrons. The role of valence electrons in determining molecular structure is a key takeaway.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of the octet rule in chemistry
  • Familiarity with covalent bonding concepts
  • Knowledge of valence electrons for common elements (e.g., Cl, F, H, O, C)
  • Basic grasp of molecular structures and Lewis diagrams
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  • Study the octet rule and its exceptions in more detail
  • Learn about molecular geometry and hybridization
  • Explore resonance structures and their significance in chemistry
  • Investigate the concept of formal charge in Lewis structures
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Chemistry students, educators, and anyone interested in molecular structure and bonding theories will benefit from this discussion.

  • #31
so would it be
\overline{N}=\overline{O}\cdot
 
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  • #32
If you're sure it's NO^{2+} [/tex], then, yes, that is one possibility. <br /> <br /> However, it&#039;s not the best one.<br /> <br /> Explanation : NO^(2+) has 5+ 6 - 2 = 9 valence electrons, which is an odd number. You can not make two octets out of an odd number of electrons. So, one of the two atoms must necessarily settle for a non-octet configuration. <br /> <br /> Here&#039;s another possibility. Tell me if you think it&#039;s better or worse, and why.<br /> <br /> (+)~~\cdot N \equiv \overline {O}~~(+)
 
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  • #33
oh well. I give up. I'll finish working on this stuff tomorrow. Thanks everyone for your help :smile: . It's extremely late over here and I need to go to bed. :zzz:
 
  • #34
That would be better because the bond is stronger? A triple bond is better than a double. So for some of them there are many answers?
 
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  • #35
Okay,Gokul,you're right:In this formula NOF_{2} with the Lewis structure:

\cdot​
|\overline{\underline{F}}-N=\overline{O}|​
|​
|\underline{F}|​
The total number of electrons is as it should be:25 and the oxydation number of nytrogen is +4,which means that the "NO" combination has the ON "+2".

I believe they are called "mesomeric" structures and have been discovered by Linus Pauling in the early 1930's.

Daniel.
 
  • #36
No, it's better because O gets an octet. Yes, sometimes there are multiple answers, and the actual structure is a resonance of the different possibilities. This is true if the different answers are equally good. However, here, there is one solution that is better than others, so it must be chosen.

Too late here too ...g'night !
 
  • #37
dextercioby said:
Okay,Gokul,you're right:In this formula NOF_{2} with the Lewis structure:

\cdot​
|\overline{\underline{F}}-N=\overline{O}|​
|​
|\underline{F}|​
The total number of electrons is as it should be:25 and the oxydation number of nytrogen is +4,which means that the "NO" combination has the ON "+2".

I believe they are called "mesomeric" structures and have been discovered by Linus Pauling in the early 1930's.

Daniel.

Dexter, this lends naturally to another solution :

(2+) ~~ \cdot N = \overline{O} |
 
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  • #38
And i believe that oxygen looks pretty good:no triple bond,no "forced" octet...Poor nytrogen,stripped of two electrons...
:-p

Daniel.
 

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