Understand Lewis Dot Structures: Cl F & Triple Bonds

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The discussion revolves around understanding Lewis dot structures, specifically for molecules such as ClF and C2H2, as well as the implications of bonding types, including single, double, and triple bonds. Participants explore how to determine the number of shared electrons and the application of the octet rule in various scenarios.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants attempt to visualize Lewis structures for different molecules and question how to identify the number of bonds based on electron sharing. There are inquiries about the octet rule and how it applies to halogens and other elements. Some participants express confusion regarding the representation of electrons and bonding in specific molecules.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and clarifications about Lewis structures and bonding. Some guidance has been offered regarding the drawing of structures and the importance of valence electrons, but there is no explicit consensus on certain interpretations or representations.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of Lewis structures within the constraints of a K-12 educational context, which limits the depth of discussion regarding quantum mechanics and advanced bonding theories.

  • #31
so would it be
\overline{N}=\overline{O}\cdot
 
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  • #32
If you're sure it's NO^{2+} [/tex], then, yes, that is one possibility. <br /> <br /> However, it&#039;s not the best one.<br /> <br /> Explanation : NO^(2+) has 5+ 6 - 2 = 9 valence electrons, which is an odd number. You can not make two octets out of an odd number of electrons. So, one of the two atoms must necessarily settle for a non-octet configuration. <br /> <br /> Here&#039;s another possibility. Tell me if you think it&#039;s better or worse, and why.<br /> <br /> (+)~~\cdot N \equiv \overline {O}~~(+)
 
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  • #33
oh well. I give up. I'll finish working on this stuff tomorrow. Thanks everyone for your help :smile: . It's extremely late over here and I need to go to bed. :zzz:
 
  • #34
That would be better because the bond is stronger? A triple bond is better than a double. So for some of them there are many answers?
 
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  • #35
Okay,Gokul,you're right:In this formula NOF_{2} with the Lewis structure:

\cdot​
|\overline{\underline{F}}-N=\overline{O}|​
|​
|\underline{F}|​
The total number of electrons is as it should be:25 and the oxydation number of nytrogen is +4,which means that the "NO" combination has the ON "+2".

I believe they are called "mesomeric" structures and have been discovered by Linus Pauling in the early 1930's.

Daniel.
 
  • #36
No, it's better because O gets an octet. Yes, sometimes there are multiple answers, and the actual structure is a resonance of the different possibilities. This is true if the different answers are equally good. However, here, there is one solution that is better than others, so it must be chosen.

Too late here too ...g'night !
 
  • #37
dextercioby said:
Okay,Gokul,you're right:In this formula NOF_{2} with the Lewis structure:

\cdot​
|\overline{\underline{F}}-N=\overline{O}|​
|​
|\underline{F}|​
The total number of electrons is as it should be:25 and the oxydation number of nytrogen is +4,which means that the "NO" combination has the ON "+2".

I believe they are called "mesomeric" structures and have been discovered by Linus Pauling in the early 1930's.

Daniel.

Dexter, this lends naturally to another solution :

(2+) ~~ \cdot N = \overline{O} |
 
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  • #38
And i believe that oxygen looks pretty good:no triple bond,no "forced" octet...Poor nytrogen,stripped of two electrons...
:-p

Daniel.
 

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