Understanding Atomic Dipoles and Spontaneous Emission

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the interaction between light and atoms in the context of quantum optics, specifically focusing on atomic dipoles and spontaneous emission. Participants explore the nature of atomic dipoles, their orientation, and the isotropy of spontaneous emission, addressing both theoretical and experimental aspects.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how a spherically symmetric atom can have a dipole moment pointing in a specific direction and whether an experimentalist can orient the dipole.
  • Another participant explains that the dipole moment is an operator that can induce transitions to non-spherically symmetric states, such as from an s function to a p function in hydrogen atoms.
  • It is noted that while the emission from a single atom is not isotropic, the average radiation from a large ensemble of atoms is isotropic, which is reflected in the Einstein A coefficient formula.
  • One participant suggests that the radiation pattern from an atom may resemble that of a dipole antenna.
  • There is a discussion about the feasibility of experimentally orienting atomic dipoles, with one participant mentioning the Stark effect as a method to achieve this, while others suggest that it is easier with molecules in certain environments.
  • Some participants argue that shining polarized light on a dilute gas of atoms can lead to polarized atoms, although this may not directly relate to spontaneous emission.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the orientation of atomic dipoles and the isotropy of spontaneous emission. There is no consensus on the ease of orienting dipoles in spherically symmetric atoms versus other systems, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of polarized light on spontaneous emission.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the definitions of atomic states and the conditions under which polarization occurs. The discussion does not resolve the complexities of spontaneous emission in relation to atomic dipole orientation.

McLaren Rulez
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Hi,

In quantum optics, the interaction between light and atoms is described by a Hamiltonian of the form d.E where d is the dipole moment of the atom. The picture given is basically that this is a vector and we take the the dot product with this and the electric field vector (whose direction comes from the polarization direction). I don't understand why the atom has this asymmetry.

1) If the atom is spherically symmetric, how do we get this dipole pointing in one specific direction? Can an experimentalist put an atom with its dipole pointing in a specific way?

2) If we look at spontaneous emission, the rate is given by the Einstein A coefficient which is reproduced using quantum optics. It is
<br /> \Gamma=\frac{\omega^{2}d^{2}}{3\pi\epsilon_{0} \hbar c^{3}}<br />
Is this sponteanous emission spatially isotropic or is there more radiation in some directions compared to others?

I feel that I may have some misconceptions regarding the whole thing. Please do correct me if I do. Thank you :)
 
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1) The point is that d is an operator and, even if you start from a spherically symmetric electronic wavefunction, the operator induces a transition to a state which is not spherically symmetric. E.g. in a hydrogen atom from an s function to a p function.
2) The emission of a single atom will not be isotropic, however the formula for the Einstein A coefficient is averaged over many atoms and the radiation emitted spontaneously by a large ensemble of atoms is isotropic on the mean. This averaging leads to the factor 3 in the denominator.
 
Thanks DrDu. So the actual radiation pattern be the same as that due to the dipole antenna, I assume.

Also, is it possible to experimentally orient the atomic dipole in any direction we want? Or is it a random process?

Thank you
 
With an atom in a spherically symmetric ground state this is difficult.
You could use e.g. the Stark effect to split the final levels of the transition.
It is much easier with molecules whose molecular axes can be oriented, e.g. in a crystal or polymer matrix.
 
DrDu said:
With an atom in a spherically symmetric ground state this is difficult.
Why? If you take a dilute gas of atoms (where collisions are not important) and shine polarized light on it, you will get polarized atoms.
 
DrClaude said:
Why? If you take a dilute gas of atoms (where collisions are not important) and shine polarized light on it, you will get polarized atoms.

Admittedly true. I was more referring to spontaneous emission.
 
Thank you for the replies! I have a much better idea of the process now.
 

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