Understanding Dot Product: Is v=w in Vectors?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the dot product in vector mathematics, specifically examining the equation u.v = u.w and whether it implies that v = w. Participants express varying levels of confidence in their understanding of the implications of this equation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the vectors and the conditions under which the dot product remains equal. There is a focus on whether the equality of the dot products necessitates the equality of the vectors themselves.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants questioning their assumptions and interpretations of the dot product. Some guidance has been offered regarding the properties of the dot product, but there is no explicit consensus on the implications of the original equation.

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Participants express uncertainty about the mathematical theory behind vectors, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge that may affect their reasoning. The discussion also reflects a common homework constraint of needing to understand rather than simply apply formulas.

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These vectors are giving me some real trouble...i'm fine with the in physics, but the math theory behind them is my weakness...

Ok, so we have that u.v=u.w where those are dot products of vectors. The question asks whether or not it makes sense to equate that to meaning that v=w.

Now, at first glance I would say yes. Since u never changes, for the dot product to be the same of the 2 expressions v and w would have to be the same vectors. But i have a strong feeling that I'm wrong...seems like one of those questions designed to make you second-guess yourself.

Any pointers on how to work this one out would be appreciated
 
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Hint: Dot product is commutative. :smile:
 
hmmm, yes, i knew that; but I'm not entirely sure as to how that helps. It only seems to further my belief that v=w...which is possible i guess; maybe I'm overthinking it.

the way i see it is that if

u.v = u.w and
u.v = v.u

all that means is that v.u = u.w

and that doesn't get me any further to understanding :(
 
u.v=u.w is the same as saying u.(v-w)=0. Now is it true that for all u, u.z=0 means z equals zero?
 
As far as I know, no; that doesn't mean z=0. So v-w wouldn't have to be zero, meaning they're not equal :)

Thanks a lot! The commutativity hint was received poorly on my part, i never even considered taking u.w to the other side...
 

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