Understanding elastic tensor matrix intuitively

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the elastic tensor matrix in the context of generalized Hooke's law, specifically focusing on the reduction of constants in isotropic materials and the implications of crystal symmetry. Participants seek to understand the intuitive aspects of these concepts, including the use of Einstein summation notation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the elastic tensor has 81 constants, which reduce to 9 in the isotropic case, and seeks an intuitive understanding of this reduction and the reasons for some components being zero.
  • Another participant recommends the book "Physical Properties of Crystals: Their Representation by Tensors and Matrices" by J.F. Nye as a resource for understanding the subject.
  • A later reply reiterates the recommendation for Nye's book and suggests that it is well-regarded for the topic, while also asking for additional book suggestions.
  • One participant agrees with the recommendation of Nye's book and mentions that it provides a detailed description of how crystal symmetry affects the indices of the elastic tensor.
  • There is a clarification regarding the number of independent parameters in the isotropic case, with one participant stating there are 2 independent parameters, while noting there are 9 for the orthotropic case.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the value of Nye's book for understanding the elastic tensor, but there is no consensus on the specifics of the number of independent parameters in different cases, indicating a potential area of disagreement.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding the reduction of constants in the elastic tensor or the implications of crystal symmetry, leaving these points open for further exploration.

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Hi, I know the generalized hookes law between stress and strain is given by the elastic tensor. This matrix has 81 constants which are reduced to 9 in the isotropic case. Can someone please help me to understand intuitively how this reduction in the elastic tensor takes place and why some of the components are zero? also can someone please help me to understand the einstein summation used in the naming of the elastic tensor?

Thankyou for your help
 
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I recommend you take a look at the book Physical Properties of Crystals: Their Representation by Tensors and Matrices by J.F. Nye. This is one of the better books out there to give a complete understanding of the subject.
 
Charles Link said:
I recommend you take a look at the book Physical Properties of Crystals: Their Representation by Tensors and Matrices by J.F. Nye. This is one of the better books out there to give a complete understanding of the subject.
Thanks for your reply.. Do you have suggestions for any other books?
 
chiraganand said:
Thanks for your reply.. Do you have suggestions for any other books?
The book by Nye is one of the better ones that is somewhat well-known, but not as well as it should be, in my opinion. For your topic of interest, it really does a good job. Most other physics texts for the various topics are fairly well-known.
 
I concur; Nye says it all. There's a detailed description of how crystal symmetry forces many of the indices to be zero or identical.

Also, I think you mean 2 independent parameters for the isotropic case. There are 9 independent parameters for the orthotropic case.
 
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