Understanding Linear Transformations: Solving Homework Problems

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The discussion revolves around understanding linear transformations, specifically how to apply linearity to a set of points and derive a transformation matrix. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the necessary steps to solve the problem and seeks clarification on the use of vectors in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the transformation of specific points and the implications of linearity. The original poster questions whether to represent points as vectors and seeks guidance on deriving the transformation matrix from the given points.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into using a matrix representation for the linear transformation and suggested checking the consistency of results with additional points. There appears to be a productive exchange of ideas, though no consensus has been reached on the overall approach.

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The original poster mentions a potential missing piece of information that could clarify their understanding. There is also a reference to the need for linear independence among the points used in the transformation.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


L(x,y) = L(x+y,x-y)
L(x,y) = L(x) + L(y)
L(kx) = kL(x)

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm very confused on this. I've look all over and haven't figured this out yet. I'm there's one simple piece of info I'm missing and then it'll all make sense, but for the life of me I can't figure it out. The most I've come up with is showing what three points become.
L(0,3) = (0,3)
L(4,0) = (4,8)
L(4,3) = (4,11)

I don't know what to do from here.
Edit:
I need vectors, so would I turn my three points into vectors?
I think I need L(x)=[L]x=vx
Where v is the vector.
 
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there are 4 useful points on the house that you should be able to use (excluding the oirgin which must map to itself as the map is linear), then consider L as a 2x2 matrix
[tex]L=\begin{pmatrix} a & b \\ c & d \end{pmatrix}[/tex]

multplying L by an original point must give the transformed point for each of the points you have stated and the one other, use these to solve for a,b,c&d
 
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So what I calculated:
L(0,3) = (0,3)
L(4,0) = (4,8)
L(4,3) = (4,11)
L(2,5) = (2,9)

L= ((a,c)|(b,d))

For the first point:
((a,c)|(b,d))(0,3) = (3b,3d)
3b= 0 -> b=0
3d = 3 -> d=1
Second point:
((a,c)|(b,d))(4,0) = (4a,4c)
4a = 4 -> a=1
4c = 8 -> c=2

So L = ((1,2)|(0,1))
 
ok looks good, the points with a zero in made life easy. Note the the action of the operator on two linearly independent vectors (equivalent to points here) whould be enough to solve

I would check with your 3rd or fourth point to make sure its consistent
 
lanedance said:
ok looks good, the points with a zero in made life easy. Note the the action of the operator on two linearly independent vectors (equivalent to points here) whould be enough to solve

I would check with your 3rd or fourth point to make sure its consistent

Thank you, I did and everything checks out.
 

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