Understanding Particle Energies in Ohanian's Book: A Potential Problem Explored

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The discussion centers on the concept of particle energies as presented in Ohanian's book, specifically the separation of energies into kinetic and rest mass components. It is established that the total mass of a bound system is less than the sum of the particle rest masses due to the presence of a "mass deficit," which is directly related to the binding energy. The binding energy is defined as the energy required to separate particles in a bound system, and its removal results in a decrease in total mass. The inclusion of the four-momentum of the binding energy resolves any discrepancies in the energy-momentum four-vector.

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I saw today in Ohanian's book:
"It is convenient to separate particle energies into kinetic and rest mass energies:
M=∑m +(∑T/c^2 +U/c^2)
The term in the paranthesis is negative for a bound system,hence the total mass is less than the sum of the particle rest masses"
I thought the rest masses were indeed less.If it is otherwise, there's a problem with the Energy momentum four vector
 
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vin300 said:
I saw today in Ohanian's book:
"It is convenient to separate particle energies into kinetic and rest mass energies:
M=?m +(?T/c^2 +U/c^2)
The term in the paranthesis is negative for a bound system,hence the total mass is less than the sum of the particle rest masses"
This is correct. The "missing" mass is called the "mass deficit" and that mass/c^2 is called the "binding energy". Note, the mass deficit only appears when the binding energy has been removed from the system, usually either through radiation or through doing work on another system.
vin300 said:
I thought the rest masses were indeed less.If it is otherwise, there's a problem with the Energy momentum four vector
The problem goes away if you include the four-momentum of the binding energy which left the system.
 
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