Understanding the Effects of Shorted Lamp A on Power Supply

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The discussion revolves around understanding the effects of a shorted lamp on a power supply, particularly focusing on the implications of internal resistance and the measurement of resistance using an ohmmeter. The subject area includes electrical circuits and components.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the nature of a short circuit in lamp A and question how it can occur. There are discussions about measuring resistance with an ohmmeter and the implications of using a power supply versus an ohmmeter for testing. Some participants express confusion about the internal workings of the ohmmeter and its power source.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the behavior of the circuit components and the implications of short circuits. There is a productive exchange of ideas regarding the operation of the ohmmeter and the characteristics of the power supply, although no consensus has been reached on all points.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the uncertainty regarding which bulb is faulty and the nature of the fault, as well as the limitations of the measurements being discussed. The discussion also highlights the importance of understanding the internal resistance of the power supply in relation to the circuit setup.

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My answer to (b) was that power supply would have an internal resistance which is not negligible and will affect results. The correct answer is that shorted lamp A would cause damage to the lamps/supply.
How is lamp A shorted? I don't see how there is a short cut way for the current to flow through to short lamp A. And how can we measure the resistance of the lamps by using an ohm meter without any power supply?
 
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We don't know which bulb is faulty or the nature of the fault. A normally operating lamp should have some measurable resistance, where a faulty one may have 0 (short circuit) or infinity (open circuit). The switches are a convenience, because they let us test the circuit components without moving the meter around.
Now, what could happen in the case where we close switch 1 and are testing bulb A individually?

As for the ohmmeter, they usually use a battery to source the current to measure resistance. This is typically much smaller that the current sourced by a power supply.
 
showzen said:
We don't know which bulb is faulty or the nature of the fault. A normally operating lamp should have some measurable resistance, where a faulty one may have 0 (short circuit) or infinity (open circuit). The switches are a convenience, because they let us test the circuit components without moving the meter around.
Now, what could happen in the case where we close switch 1 and are testing bulb A individually?

As for the ohmmeter, they usually use a battery to source the current to measure resistance. This is typically much smaller that the current sourced by a power supply.

The ohm meter will measure the resistance of bulb A only
Oh I see, so does it mean that the ohm meter has a power source inside but much smaller than the power supply?
 
Janiceleong26 said:
The ohm meter will measure the resistance of bulb A only
Oh I see, so does it mean that the ohm meter has a power source inside but much smaller than the power supply?

Your power supply is set to supply constant voltage, so in the case of a short circuit you get current approaching infinity until a fuse blows.

Your ohmmeter supply's a constant current.
 
showzen said:
Your power supply is set to supply constant voltage, so in the case of a short circuit you get current approaching infinity until a fuse blows.

Your ohmmeter supply's a constant current.
I see..I got it , thanks
 

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