Understanding the Importance of Particle Reynolds Number in Fluid Dynamics

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The discussion centers on the concept of particle Reynolds number in fluid dynamics, specifically addressing its calculation and the physical significance of using the properties of the surrounding fluid rather than those of the particle itself. Participants explore theoretical and conceptual aspects related to fluid behavior around particles, including bubbles, drops, and solid particles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about why the Reynolds number uses the density and viscosity of the surrounding fluid instead of the particle's properties, particularly in the case of liquid droplets.
  • Another participant clarifies that the term "particle" can refer to solid particles, liquid drops, or gas bubbles, suggesting that the equation for Reynolds number applies to all these cases.
  • It is noted that the resistance to particle movement is due to fluid deformation, emphasizing that the fluid flows around the particle, which is why the fluid's properties are used in the Reynolds number calculation.
  • A participant questions the relevance of using the particle's internal conditions when studying the flow around it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the use of the surrounding fluid's properties for calculating the Reynolds number, but there is some disagreement regarding the interpretation of the term "particle" and its implications for different states of matter (solid, liquid, gas).

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The discussion does not resolve the confusion regarding the application of the Reynolds number to different types of particles, nor does it clarify the assumptions made in the context of liquid droplets versus solid particles.

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Individuals interested in fluid dynamics, particularly those studying the behavior of particles in various fluid environments, may find this discussion relevant.

min_ht
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Hello,

The particle Reynolds number makes me confused and I hope someone can help me on this please!

Normally (as I read in every books and papers) that when a bubble or drop rises in a fluid, the bubble/drop Reynolds number is calculated by:

Re = ρUD/μ

where U is particle velocity, D can be particle diameter, and ρ and μ are density and viscosity of continuous fluid

my question is why don't use ρ and μ of bubble/drop? why use them of surrounding fluid?
what is the physical meaning of this Re?

Thanks in advance.
 
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The particle is supposed to be solid, so it has no ##\mu##: the fluid has to move around the particle and not the other way around. :smile:
 
BvU said:
The particle is supposed to be solid, so it has no ##\mu##: the fluid has to move around the particle and not the other way around. :smile:

Thank you for your reply
Actually the term "particle" refers to all solid particle, liquid drop or gas bubble (book: Bubbles, Drops, and Particles of Clift et al. 1978)
just normally people use particle for solid body :)
and that equation for Re applies for all of them
in my case it is liquid droplet, so it has μ, and that's why I don't really understand :(
 
The resistance to the particle movement is caused by the fluid deforming. As reckoned from the frame of reference of particle, the fluid is flowing past. So it is the fluid deformation and flow around the particle that determines the drag on the particle. That's why the focus is on the fluid.
 
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min_ht said:
in my case it is liquid droplet, so it has μ, and that's why I don't really understand

In the case of something like a liquid droplet falling through air, you would make the assumption that the droplet is a spherical particle with no deformation. The Reynolds number still applies to the surrounding fluid flowing around the particle, not the other way around.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sediment_transport#Particle_Reynolds_Number
 
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If your goal is to study the flow around a particle, why would you use conditions inside the particle in your study?
 
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Thank you all
I think I got your points and they help a lot
very appreciated!
 
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