Understanding the Presence of Vacancies in Crystal Lattices

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The discussion revolves around the presence of vacancies in crystal lattices, focusing on both qualitative and quantitative explanations for their existence. Participants explore concepts related to entropy, free energy, and the implications of defects in crystalline structures.

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  • One participant seeks a quantitative explanation for why vacancies exist in crystal lattices, specifically looking for a formula rather than exact numbers.
  • Another participant questions the need for a quantitative approach, suggesting that a qualitative explanation may suffice.
  • A participant proposes that entropy can explain the presence of vacancies, indicating that as vacancies increase, the number of microscopic states (W) also increases, thus affecting entropy (S).
  • Formulas are presented to illustrate how the number of ways to arrange vacancies in a crystal lattice can be calculated, with a focus on combinatorial aspects.
  • Discussion includes the relationship between entropy and free energy, with one participant explaining that while increasing entropy lowers free energy, introducing vacancies also raises internal energy, necessitating a balance between these factors.
  • Another participant notes that minimizing free energy is equivalent to maximizing entropy in this context.

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Participants express varying perspectives on the necessity of quantitative versus qualitative explanations. While there is some agreement on the role of entropy in explaining vacancies, the discussion remains unresolved regarding the balance between entropy and internal energy in determining the presence of vacancies.

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Participants reference the need for a deeper understanding of the relationship between entropy and free energy, as well as the implications of introducing defects in crystal structures. There are indications of missing assumptions regarding the conditions under which these principles apply.

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Hello

Is anybody can help me for the next question (the topic is defects in crystal) :

It should be quantitatively explained, why vacancies always exist in a crystal lattice?

Thank you very much to the person who can help me :-)
 
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How do you mean: quantitatively?
You want an explanation that gets the numbers right, rather than just explaining qualitatively why they are there?
 
I think we can explain that qualitatively and with formula (quantitatively)!? No I don't need the exact number, just the formula who explain why we have always vacancies (if it's possible).

I know that's the increase of entropy who can explain those vacancies but I don't understand why! Do you have an explanation?

Thanks a lot
 
Try http://www.tf.uni-kiel.de/matwis/amat/def_en/kap_2/backbone/r2_1_1.html" .
 
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OK, so you know what entropy is, right?
It is basically the number W of microscopic states that a system can be in, although for various reasons, we usually prefer working with a multiple its natural logarithm S = k ln(W), where k is the Boltzmann constant and S is called the entropy.
So suppose we have a very simply crystal, with N lattice positions, each of which either contains an atom, or not. If all the lattice positions are filled, there is only one state the system can be in, so W = 1.
If there is one defect, it can be in N different positions, so (assuming no symmetries), W = N.
If there are two defects, the number of possible grids with (N - 2) positions filled and 2 vacant is W = N(N - 1)/2. More generally, if you have n missing atoms in the grid of N, the number of ways that you can choose the n positions to put your defects is (N choose n), i.e. W = N! / ((N - n)! n!).
Of course, there is a maximum here, where exactly half of the sites is filled and the other half is empty. So by entropy considerations alone, it would be most convenient to have half of the crystal empty :)

But then, entropy is not all of the story. Nature makes a big point not about maximizing the entropy, but rather about minimizing the free energy. The formula for this is F = U - TS, where U is the internal energy of the system, T is temperature and S is the entropy. From here you can see that increasing the entropy lowers the free energy, which is precisely what we want, right? But wait, adding defects also has a price: it increases the total internal energy of the system (basically, the reason being that you need to do work to take out an atom from a perfect crystal). So apart from increasing S, you also increase U. Since the target is not to make S as large, but F as small as possible, you need to find a balance between increasing F by adding internal energy, and decreasing it by adding entropy. Each empty spot that you create gives the system more microscopic states to be in, but it also adds energy to it.

If you want to see the formulas, you should go get a good book. If you search on Google Books for example, you can find something like this, which hopefully helps.
 
However one should note that minimizing the free energy is equivalent to maximizing the entropy in this case.
 
Ok thank you all for your explanation it helps me a lot!

See you soon for a new question :-)
 

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