Understanding the Use of the Long Jump Formula R=9.21m and Its Derivation

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The discussion revolves around the application and derivation of the long jump formula R=9.21m, with participants questioning when to use this formula versus calculating maximum range (Rmax) using time (t) and launch angle (θ). The formula is specifically applicable when the launch and landing heights are the same, and it simplifies calculations by eliminating the need for t. Participants highlight that R is maximized at θ=45 degrees, and the formula allows for easier determination of range without needing to find t directly. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the relationship between the components of motion and the derivation of the formula itself.
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haruspex said:
My post was intended as self evident.
It’s not obvious if that you mean
 
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rudransh verma said:
You mean when there is no rate + or - then the function is either at its maximum or minimum.
Be careful. The implication is the other way around.

If the rate is + or - then the function is not at its maximum or minimum.
If the rate is 0 then the function might be at a maximum or minimum.

Take the example of ##f(x) = x^3##. The first derivative of this function is zero at ##x=0## but there is no maximum or minimum there.
rudransh verma said:
The function is increasing/decreasing at an instant if the derivative is not equal to zero.
Yes. This statement is correct.

If the derivative is non-zero, the function is increasing or decreasing and, therefore, is not at a maximum or minimum. Intuitively, it is like climbing a hill. If the ground is sloping, you are not at the top yet.

Here is an on-line lesson.
 
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