Understanding Time Dilation in Special Relativity

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The discussion revolves around the concept of time dilation in special relativity, specifically focusing on the Lorentz transformation between two reference frames, S and S'. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the calculation of time coordinates for an event in a moving frame.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the Lorentz transformation but encounters a negative time value for t'A, leading to questions about the interpretation of this result. Other participants question the implications of a negative time coordinate and discuss the meaning of "observing" events in the context of relativity.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring the implications of negative time values and clarifying the concept of observation in relativity. There is a recognition of potential misunderstandings regarding the calculations and interpretations of time coordinates.

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There is an emphasis on the original poster's uncertainty about the calculations and the definitions used in the problem. The discussion highlights the distinction between mathematical results and physical interpretations, particularly regarding events in the past.

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See, I've just started taking this class, and evne though I've already read books by Martin Gardner and Brian Greene, I don't understand any of this stuff... well, not any. But my math seems to be wrong.

I have 2 frames, S and S', such that t=t'=0 and x=x'=0.
Event A occurs in frame S at tA=0.3 microseconds, xA = 150 m.
Frame S' moves at a velocity of +0.65c (where c is 3x10^8 m/s, by our convention)

I don't not understand what to do, but when I do the full lorentz transformation calculation, I end up with a negative time for t'A. Am I miss-interpretting the question or the answer? Why?
 
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I haven't performed the calculation, but why is it a problem if t'A is negative?
 
Well, if t is negative, that means the event is in the past, for the observer, right? Doesn't that mean he never observed it? I figure it doesn't mean the same thing as saying it's 3 meters in the negative x direction, as you can look back and see it, but if it's the past.

Although, now that you mention it, since this observer's (S') moving so quickly, he's already seen the event and moved on by the time the observer in S sees it.

So I miss-interpretted the answer...?
 
I just did a quick run through the calculation. I could have made a mistake, but I, too, get t'_A to be negative.

There is nothing magical or mystical about this. For example, if I choose here and now to be the origin of my spacetime coordinates, what is the time coordinate of something that happened yesterday, like the landing of the space shuttle?

Also, be careful with way "observe" is used in relativity. It doesn't mean the same thing as "actually see happen."
 

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