Understanding Topology A on X: Real Numbers

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The discussion focuses on the properties of topology A defined on the space of real numbers X, specifically addressing the set A = {∅, ℝ, (-∞, x] | x ∈ ℝ}. Participants analyze why A does not satisfy the axioms of a topology. Key points include the observation that the infinite union of sets of the form (-∞, x] does not belong to A, as demonstrated by the example where the union of (-∞, -1/n] as n approaches infinity results in (-∞, 0), which is not included in A. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the axioms of topology to determine the validity of A.

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Homework Statement


X is the space of all real numbers

topology A={empty set} U {R} U {(-infinity,x];x in R}

The Attempt at a Solution


Is it because (-infinity, x] is not an open set usuing the usual metric on R but is using a metric allowed as it was not specified in the question.

If not then is it because an infinite union of (-infinity,x] is not in A?

i.e take x=1/n then an infinite union of (-infinity,-1/n] when n goes to infinity should be (-infinity,0) which is not in A.
 
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What does the usual topology have to do with anything. You're asked to show that this is not a topology so find one of the axioms it fails to satisfy.

If not then is it because an infinite union of (-infinity,x] is not in A?

that doesn't make sense. The union of what index? Do you mean the union [tex]\cup_{x \in \mathbb{R}} (-\infty,x][/tex]?

Because that is just R.
i.e take x=1/n then an infinite union of (-infinity,-1/n] when n goes to infinity should be (-infinity,0) which is not in A.

There we go. Now you're talking, though what you really mean is

[tex]\cup_{n \in \mathbb{N}} (-\infty,-1/n]=(-\infty,0)[/tex].

There are no limits of anything involved.
 
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matt grime said:
There we go. Now you're talking.

Finally a (the first) complement from Matt Grime.

I figured that one up while typing the question.
 

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