Understanding Trig In Force Diagrams

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The discussion focuses on understanding the application of trigonometry in force diagrams, specifically regarding the use of cosine in calculating force components. The user is reviewing their homework and seeks clarification on how the cosine of 30 degrees is derived in the context of forces acting on a point due to two charges. It is explained that the y-axis is oriented to bisect the charges, and symmetry allows for the resultant forces to be calculated along a specific line. The cosine function arises from the relationship between the forces and their components, emphasizing that the angle is related to the direction of the resultant force. The multiplication by two is justified by the symmetry of the forces involved.
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Hello,

I have the following problem part (b) which I already solved as you can see in the attached image. So I am not asking homework questions, I merely reviewing my homework for a better understanding for the test. I obtained the answer from a friend showing me his method. However, I am studying and a listed solution was the following:

F_y = 2*(k*(q^2/r^2))cos(30)


I've drawn out a force diagram but have no idea how, they have obtained the cosign. In the listed solution they state use oriented the y-axis such that it bisects charges q2 and q3.



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There are two forces acting on point 1. By symetry the result of these two forces will act along a line drawn through point 1 and a point mid way between 2 and 3. See diagram.

So work out the component of the two forces pointing in that direction.

Consider the triangle on the right.

Cos(30) = Fr/F

so

Fr = F Cos(30)

That's not the whole solution obviously, just where the cos(30) comes from. The angle doesn't come from the direction of the result per se, it comes from the direction of the result in relation to the forces. eg If you rotate the triangle/problem drawing 30 degrees so the resulting force is vertical (on the y-axis) the answer will still contain cos(30).
 

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Thank you very much! And because of symmetry is why it's multiplied by 2?
 
Yes in this case.
 
So I know that electrons are fundamental, there's no 'material' that makes them up, it's like talking about a colour itself rather than a car or a flower. Now protons and neutrons and quarks and whatever other stuff is there fundamentally, I want someone to kind of teach me these, I have a lot of questions that books might not give the answer in the way I understand. Thanks
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