Understanding Variable Force and Kinetic Energy: Exploring Halliday's Answers

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving variable force and kinetic energy, specifically analyzing the kinetic energy of a 2.0 kg body moving along the x-axis under the influence of a varying force. The initial conditions include a velocity of 4.0 m/s at x = 0, with specific kinetic energy values to determine at different positions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between work done and change in kinetic energy, particularly through the area under a force vs. position graph. There are attempts to calculate kinetic energy at specific positions, with some participants questioning their initial assumptions about kinetic energy values.

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The discussion includes various attempts to solve the problem, with some participants expressing confusion over their calculations. One participant has corrected their understanding of initial kinetic energy, while others are still seeking clarity on specific parts of the problem. There is no explicit consensus on the correct answers yet, but guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between work and kinetic energy.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem as presented, with some acknowledging potential errors in their initial assumptions about kinetic energy values. The discussion reflects a mix of correct and incorrect reasoning regarding the calculations involved.

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Behold Halliday's Question and Halliday's answers:

The only force acting on a 2.0 kg body as it moves along the x-axis varies as shown in Figure 7-41 (see attatchment). The velocity of the body at x = 0 is 4.0 m/s.

(a) What is the kinetic energy of the body at x = 3.0 m?
12 J
(b) At what value of x will the body have a kinetic energy of 8.0 J?
4.0 m
(c) What is the maximum kinetic energy attained by the body between x = 0 and x = 5.0 m?
18 J

I am stumped. I've only tried to figure out (a) and (b), but my method does not give me correct answers. My train of thought was that Delta KE=W=area under curve. So for part (a), I said that area under graph is (triangle-triangle-rectangle) = -4 Nm. Well, gee.
Maybe since KE is always positive, take the absolute value of various areas! I think that is very poor reasoning, because Delta KE and W can both be negative. And even when I do that, I get 8 Nm, which is still wrong.
Similar reasoning applied to (b) also gives the incorrect answer, which is comforting.

A hint from the wise gurus perhaps?
 

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mbrmbrg said:
My train of thought was that Delta KE=W=area under curve. So for part (a), I said that area under graph is (triangle-triangle-rectangle) = -4 Nm. Well, gee.

Correct.

The change of KE is equal to the work done on the body. If the work is negative, the kinetic energy will decrease. Final KE - initial KE = W. You know the initial KE, (16 J) you know W,(-4 J) what is the problem?

ehild
 
Problem is that I thought initial Kinetic Energy was 4J. Wups!
Thank you.
 
I'm doing the same problem. Does anyone know the answers?
I got 12J for (a) but I'm lost on (b) and (c)
 
Edit: this is what I got after some thought...

(a) 12 J
(b) x=4
(c) 28 J

anyone agree?
 

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