Understanding Voltage Drop in Wheatstone Bridge Circuits: A Comprehensive Guide

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding voltage drop in Wheatstone bridge circuits, specifically addressing the conditions under which no current flows through the ammeter and the implications for voltage at various points in the circuit. Participants explore theoretical concepts, circuit analysis, and the application of Kirchhoff's laws.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant poses a question about the relationship between equal potential and equal voltage drop, seeking clarification on why the absence of current implies no potential difference between points a and b.
  • Another participant suggests looking up the Wheatstone bridge on Wikipedia for additional explanations.
  • Some participants assert that if there is no current flowing between two points, they are at the same potential, leading to the conclusion that the voltage drop must be the same.
  • A participant expresses confusion over the application of Kirchhoff's second rule as presented in Wikipedia, particularly regarding the direction of current flow and its effect on voltage calculations.
  • Further clarification is sought on the concept of nodes and whether the voltage drop is the same when currents converge at a node.
  • One participant explains that voltage drop is defined as the difference between voltages at two points, using an analogy of height to illustrate the concept of potential energy in relation to voltage.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the concepts discussed. While some agree on the relationship between potential and voltage drop, others remain uncertain about specific applications of Kirchhoff's laws and the implications of current flow in the circuit.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference external sources, such as Wikipedia, which may introduce additional assumptions or definitions that are not universally accepted within the discussion. The application of Kirchhoff's laws appears to be a point of contention, with varying interpretations of current flow and voltage drop.

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So this is the question...

In the direct circuit diagram below (please see the attached file), Resistors 1 and 3 have fixed resistances (R1 and R3, respectively), which are known. Resistor 2 is a variable (or adjustable) resistor, and the resistance of Resistor 4 is unknown.

Show that if Resistor 2 is adjusted until the ammeter shown registers no current through its branch, then

R1R4 = R2R3

(This circuit arrangement is known as a Wheatstone bridge.)


and the solution says...
blahblahblah..and then
"Since no current flows between Points a and b, there must be no potential difference between a and b; they're at the same potential. (so i was like, ok i understand that) So the voltage drop from a to c must equal the voltage drop from b o c. <-- this is the part i don't get... why does having the same potential mean that they both have equal voltage drop?

I would be every so pleased if someone could explain this to me..
 

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That's a wheatstone bridge...look it up in Wikipedia they must explain it...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheatstone_bridge

"why does having the same potential mean that they both have equal voltage drop?"

two different nmes for the same thing...
 
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a and b are the same node if there is no current flowing across them..,so the potential drop is same
 
Thank you Naty1 and dexterbala...
I read the wikipedia explanation for Wheastone bridge, but I still don't understand this part...

It says on wikipedia that (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheatstone_bridge)
"Kirchhoff's second rule is used for finding the voltage in the loops ABD and BCD
I3R3 - IgRg - I1R1 = 0
IxRx -I2R2 +IgRg = 0"

...and I'm even more confused. If the current flows through the resister against the direction of the circuit, the voltage increases IR. if it flows through the resister in the same direction as the circuit flow the voltage drops by IR. but in the wikipedia it seems like it's used in the opposite way...?

Oh man. I am really really puzzled.
Can anyone explain why the wikipedia did it this way...?



Then, Kirchhoff's second rule is used for finding the voltage in the loops ABD and BCD:



The bridge is balanced and Ig = 0, so the second set of equations can be rewritten as:
 
dexterbla said:
a and b are the same node if there is no current flowing across them..,so the potential drop is same

Thank you for your reply but could you explain what you mean by the same node? I know that there is no current flow across them so they are at the same voltage. But does that mean that when the two currents come together at node c, they both must have had the same voltage drop?
 
You agree that b and c are at the same voltage?

i.e. b = c


Voltage drop is the difference between voltages. i.e. from c to a it is V(c)-V(a).

But since V(c) = V(b) (the voltage at c is the same as the voltage at b), then V(c)-V(a) = V(b)-V(a) by simple substitution.




Voltage is related to the potential energy. If 'a' and 'b' have the same potential energy, then the difference between each of them and a third potential energy is the same. If that makes sense :S

In an analogue with gravity on Earth, voltage is like the 'height' of a hill. If points c and b are the same height, then the difference in height (the 'potential drop') from each of them to a point 'a' is the same for both 'c' and 'b'.
 

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