Understanding Water Pressure in Mississippi Flooding and Levee-Dwelling Homes

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the dynamics of water pressure in the context of Mississippi flooding and the effectiveness of levees built by homeowners. Participants explore the interaction between floodwaters and the ground beneath levees, questioning how water permeation and pressure dynamics affect the dryness of homes within levee-protected areas.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why water does not permeate the ground beneath levees and fill the area inside to equalize pressure with surrounding floodwaters.
  • Another participant suggests that while permeation may occur, it happens slowly, and floodwaters typically recede before significant saturation occurs.
  • A participant mentions the need for pumping in polders in Holland to maintain dryness, implying a similar situation may exist in Mississippi.
  • Concerns are raised about site-specific factors affecting water permeation, such as soil porosity and composition, with some areas potentially having low permeability due to solid rock or gravel.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the rate of water permeation and the factors influencing it, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Discussions include assumptions about soil composition and the variability of conditions across different sites, which may affect the generalizability of claims made.

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Individuals interested in hydrology, civil engineering, flood management, and environmental science may find the discussion relevant.

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WRT the Mississippi flooding, you see pictures of homes with levees surrounding them that the homeowners built. It keeps the water out. Here is my question. The ground beneath the flood waters has to be soaked. Wouldn't this water permeate the dry ground right next to it under the levee like when a paper towel absorbs water and the water spreads as it gets soaked up? And if the ground under and inside the levee is soaked, then how come the enormous pressure of the surrounding waters don't just percolate up through the ground and fill in the area inside the levee until the water level, and pressure, is equal to the water levels surrounding it? These homes, for the most part, are bone dry, or at least dry enough to not pool water (with one exception that I saw, but even then it just pooled and that was it). Thanks.
 
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RickVS said:
WRT the Mississippi flooding, you see pictures of homes with levees surrounding them that the homeowners built. It keeps the water out. Here is my question. The ground beneath the flood waters has to be soaked. Wouldn't this water permeate the dry ground right next to it under the levee like when a paper towel absorbs water and the water spreads as it gets soaked up? And if the ground under and inside the levee is soaked, then how come the enormous pressure of the surrounding waters don't just percolate up through the ground and fill in the area inside the levee until the water level, and pressure, is equal to the water levels surrounding it? These homes, for the most part, are bone dry, or at least dry enough to not pool water (with one exception that I saw, but even then it just pooled and that was it). Thanks.

I think that does happen, it just happens very slowly, and the floodwaters generally recede before it can happen to any appreciable extent. For example, the polders (reclaimed farmland that lies below sea level) in Holland need to be pumped out periodically to keep them dry.
 
For example, the polders (reclaimed farmland that lies below sea level) in Holland need to be pumped out periodically to keep them dry.

We have an even more esoteric system where I live.

Good answer, by the way.
 
RickVS said:
Wouldn't this water permeate the dry ground right next to it under the levee like when a paper towel absorbs water and the water spreads as it gets soaked up?

Perhaps, but this is very site-specific. That is, the degree of permeation(thus saturation) is generally dependent on porosity.
Not sure about the area where your referring to, but I've seen ground with well over 70% solid rock, or large concentrations of solid gravel, or other soil conditions/compositions which do not lend themselves to ready saturation(due to extremely low porosity)
 

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