Understanding Work: Kinetic vs. Potential Energy

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Work is defined as the transfer of energy and can be expressed as the change in kinetic energy or as force multiplied by distance. The discussion clarifies that when lifting an object at constant speed, the work done by the lifting force equals the change in potential energy, while the net work done is zero since gravity's work counteracts it. It emphasizes that total work considers all forces acting on an object, including gravity, and that the work-energy theorem relates net work to changes in kinetic energy. The conversation also highlights the importance of specifying which forces are doing work to avoid ambiguity. Overall, understanding work requires recognizing the interplay between kinetic and potential energy in mechanical systems.
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guitarphysics said:
Oh, net work :). That's the big thing here! So look, when you lift something upwards, you're doing work on it, right? BUT it's not changing in kinetic energy! How? Because gravity is doing work that is equal to yours but opposite in sign, so there is zero NET work done on the object, thus its kinetic energy won't change ;).

Doc Al said:
Hyperphysics is not defining work via the change in kinetic energy, they are describing the work-energy principle. And, as guitarphysics points out, it is the net work on a particle (including all forces acting) that gives the change in kinetic energy.

So, you're saying that work is equal to Δk or -ΔU, but net work is only equal to Δk? (Because in the crane example, there's still a change in potential energy, even though there's no change in kinetic energy and no net work.) That seems really weird.
 
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dragon-kazooie said:
So, you're saying that work is equal to Δk or -ΔU, but net work is only equal to Δk? (Because in the crane example, there's still a change in potential energy, even though there's no change in kinetic energy and no net work.) That seems really weird.
It's the net work that gives the change in KE. Of course, if only one force acts then the work it does will equal the change in KE, since that is the net force.

Why weird? -ΔU is just the work done by gravity. The work done by the crane, plus the work done by gravity equals ΔKE:
Workcrane + Workgravity = ΔKE
Workcrane - ΔU = ΔKE
Workcrane = ΔKE + ΔU

In this case, ΔKE = 0, so the work done by the crane = ΔU.
 

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