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Unique skull found by river, Anybody recognize?

  1. Sep 8, 2010 #1
    Unique skull found by river, Anybody recognize??

    I live in western Ma and found this by the Connecticut river one day...I was wondering if anybody could tell me what it might be from


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  3. Sep 8, 2010 #2
    Re: Unique skull found by river, Anybody recognize??

    your links are broken
     
  4. Sep 8, 2010 #3
    Re: Unique skull found by river, Anybody recognize??

    I fixed it. I have other pictures too if they may be helpful
     
  5. Sep 9, 2010 #4
    Re: Unique skull found by river, Anybody recognize??

    other pictures would be helpful, particularly from other angles. it is difficult to determine if it is a skull or another piece of bone from this image.

    most skulls have opening other then the eye socket, and I don't immediately see that here.
     
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  6. Sep 9, 2010 #5

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    Re: Unique skull found by river, Anybody recognize??

    No idea! The large saggital crest suggests a critter with strong jaws.
     
  8. Sep 9, 2010 #7
    Re: Unique skull found by river, Anybody recognize??

    the upper jaw seems too small for a strong bite though.

    Any qualms if I share these with someone who is more likely to have specimens to compare with?
     
  9. Sep 9, 2010 #8
    Re: Unique skull found by river, Anybody recognize??

    I think it's a bird, looks a lot like loon skull (without a beak). But that sagittal crest is HUGE. Loons are among the few birds that have sagittal crests, but that seems too much even for them.
     
  10. Sep 9, 2010 #9
    Re: Unique skull found by river, Anybody recognize??

    Both the Opossum and the Fisher have large sagittal crest, much like the photo.
     
  11. Sep 9, 2010 #10

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    Re: Unique skull found by river, Anybody recognize??

    I don't know what an opossum skull looks like, but a fisher skull is rather short an very powerful with sturdy jaws and lots of teeth. This skull looks like it could belong to a bird with attached (non-integral) beaks. Still at a loss though.
     
  12. Sep 9, 2010 #11
    Re: Unique skull found by river, Anybody recognize??

    Wrong muzzle shape for both the opossum and the fisher, though. The narrowing above the eye socket (clearly seen in IMG_3634.jpg) would be consistent with having salt glands, indicating a marine bird.
     
  13. Sep 9, 2010 #12
    Re: Unique skull found by river, Anybody recognize??

    I am not aware of any mammals that have a pronounced crest like that. In mammals, a large sagittal crest is a sign of large chewing muscles, yet what looks like the upper jaw seems to small for that.

    A hornbill has a large crest, but it is rather thick and heavy vs. the thin one here, and it is in front of the eyes, vs. behind.

    [PLAIN]http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8532/rhinoplaxvigils.jpg [Broken]

    A cassowary is another bird with a crest, but it too begins in front of the eyes and is a thick heavy crest.

    [PLAIN]http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6414/casuariscasuariss.jpg [Broken]

    Neither one of them is good match for this skull in my opinion.
     
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    Re: Unique skull found by river, Anybody recognize??

    After going through this site,
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    ,[/PLAIN] [Broken] there are a few bird species that do have any sort of bony crest, but none seem to be a match to this skull.

    edit: Proton Soup, your post wasn't there when I replied, but seems we're thinking somewhat the same.
     
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