Unique Solution for Linear Algebra System with Nonsingular Matrix

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The discussion revolves around a linear algebra system represented by two equations involving variables x and y. The focus is on determining the conditions under which the system has a unique solution based on the parameter k.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of the determinant being zero and its relation to the uniqueness of the solution. There is a discussion about the conditions for a matrix to be nonsingular and the interpretation of the statements regarding k.

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Participants are actively questioning the validity of the statements regarding k and its impact on the uniqueness of the solution. There is recognition of the need to consider different cases for k, and some participants express uncertainty about the original problem's wording.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the requirement that the number of equations must equal the number of unknowns for a unique solution, and the determinant condition is under scrutiny, particularly concerning the value of k being equal to 9.

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Homework Statement



Consider the system:
(1) 6x + ky = 0
(2) 4x + 6y = 0

The system will have a unique solution when k is:
(a) equal to 9
(b) any real number

Which statements are true.

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(1) 6x + ky = 0
(2) 4x + 6y = 0

The Attempt at a Solution



If m=n (number of equations is equal to number of unknowns) and the matrix is nonsingular (the determinant does not equal zero), then the system has a unique solution in the n variables.

Here, the determinant (ad-bc) equals zero when k = 9.
9 is also a real number.

Therefore, neither (a) or (b) can be true.
 
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emergentecon said:
and the matrix is nonsingular (the determinant does not equal zero), then the system has a unique solution in the n variables.
I think you've got this mixed up. If the matrix is nonsingular, then it has an inverse, right? so then would it make sense that there is a unique solution if the matrix has an inverse?

p.s. welcome to physicsforums :)

edit: hmm. actually, see what happens if you assume the matrix has an inverse. Is there a unique solution in that case? And then consider the other case, where k is any number. So, think of the two cases separately.

second edit: sorry If I'm being confusing. I'm going back on what I originally said. you did not have it mixed up.
 
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Hold on, because I lost something here.
To have a unique solution, two conditions must be satisfied:
(1) m=n
which is true in my example

(2) system must be nonsingular (determinant must not equal zero / have an inverse).
this is only true when k does not equal 9 (when k=9, then ad-bc = 0)
9 is also a real number.

So technically the answer would be any real number, excluding 9.
Which means options A and B are both wrong.
IMO.
No?

Hehe, thank for the welcome, and the swift response!
 
hehe, sorry about my first post, I rushed to give an answer without properly thinking, which is usually a bad idea, as I'm sure you know.

OK, yes there needs to be m=n and determinant not equal zero for a unique solution. And in this case, for k=9, the determinant is zero. So can't have k=9, if you want unique solution. so a) is definitely incorrect. and b) ... well, you're right, b) looks to be incorrect too, since 9 is a real number.

edit: although, the phrase for b) is: "The system will have a unique solution when k is any real number" It feels like they are trying to say "the system will have a unique solution for some k, which is a real number". The second phrase would be correct. But since they have actually written the first phrase, I think you must take it literally, and so the phrase is incorrect.

edit again: I should probably say 'statement' instead of 'phrase', since I think 'statement' is the proper way to talk about a logical yes or no.
 
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I wonder if you read or copied the problem correctly (or if it had been originally written correctly). If it had said "The system will not have a unique solution when" then the two options would make sense.
 
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Yeah, question is written exactly as it is in my notes ;)
 

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