Uniqueness of a system of equations

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The discussion revolves around the uniqueness of solutions for a system of equations involving a parameter \( k \). The equations presented include a quadratic equation and two linear equations, with participants exploring how different values of \( k \) affect the number and type of solutions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the implications of different values of \( k \) on the system's solutions, questioning how to determine when the system has unique, infinite, or no solutions. There is an exploration of the conditions under which the equations become inconsistent or underdetermined.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's interpretations and calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of solutions based on the values of \( k \), but no consensus has been reached on the specific conditions for unique solutions.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the correct formulation of the equations and the implications of the quadratic equation in relation to the linear equations. Participants are also grappling with the geometric interpretations of the systems involved.

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Its number four on this link:

http://www.math.pitt.edu/~dwang/math0280/math0280-r1.pdf"

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Well I reduced it to echelon form, and that's not really what I have the question on.
But I have three equations now, but I am not sure what values of k would imply what type of solutions.

My equations are:

0 = k2-2
3y-2z+2=k
x-2y+3z=2

I am thinking there is a unique solution at k equals plus or minus the square root of 2.
Because the first equation is really the only thing that would limit the solutions. Is that right?
SO would there be no solutions when k is anything BUT plus or minus the square root of 2?

But then I am not sure what k value would yield infinite results?
 
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Your 2nd and 3rd equations are correct, but your first is not, so check your work.

Just for the sake of argument, however, let's suppose that your work is correct. If k = +/-sqrt(2), then k2 - 2 = 0, so you have two other equations in three unknowns. This system is underdetermined, so there will be an infinite number of solutions.

If k is any value other than sqrt(2) or -sqrt(2), then the first equation is saying that 0 = <some nonzero number>, so the system of equation is inconsistent, and therefore has no solution.

There are no other possibilities.
 
OH yeah! Sorry, you are right.
I forgot to do the row operation on the right side.
So the first equation should be:

k2-3k+2=0 ?

This is only true when k= 1 or 2.

So, by what you said (which makes sense), if k equals anything besides this it is inconsistent and so there are no solutions?

I guess I am just confused by, what would a UNIQUE solution look like?
There has to be a value for k that x,y, and z had only 1 possible solution.
So is it if you can explicitly find a value for x, y and x?

But then for the first part, you said there were infinite solutions, do you have to solve for x y and z to know that or could you just tell somehow?

Thanks for bearing with me, this helps a lot.
 
No, that's not it either. Try it once more, but this time be more careful.

You'll end up with an equation k2 + <stuff> = 0. It turns out that there are two solutions for k, one positive and one negative.

If k is either of those two values, the system boils down to two equations in three unknowns. Since there is a free variable, such a system has an infinite number of solutions. Geometrically what the system represents is two planes in space that intersect in a line. Each point on the line is one of an infinite number of solutions.

If k is any value other than the two numbers described in the previous paragraph, the system is inconsistent, meaning it has no solutions. A geometric interpretation might be a situation where there are three planes in space, and two of them are parallel. Although some pairs of planes have solutions (lines of intersection), there is no point that lies on all three planes.

Since every real value of k is either a solution of the quadratic or it isn't, the system is either underdetermined or inconsistent. There are no values of k that can lead to the system being consistent, which means that there are no values of k for which the system has a unique solution.
 

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