Question about the solution of this system of equations

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The discussion revolves around a system of equations involving complex numbers, specifically focusing on the interpretation of solutions related to the variables ρ and θ. Participants are examining the correctness of the signs in the equations presented.

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  • Participants question the sign in front of the term involving θ and whether it indicates an error in the professor's solution. They explore alternative formulations of the equations and discuss the implications of these signs on the solutions.

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There is an ongoing examination of the signs used in the equations, with some participants suggesting that the negative sign does not affect the overall set of solutions. The conversation reflects a mix of interpretations and clarifications without reaching a definitive consensus.

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Participants note that the equations could be expressed in different forms, leading to the same set of solutions, and discuss the potential reasons for choosing specific signs in the equations.

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Homework Statement
complex equations
Relevant Equations
complex numbers
hi
given such system of equations

##
\begin{cases}
\rho^2 = 2 \rho \\
2\theta= -\theta+2k\pi , k\in \mathbb Z \\
\end{cases}
##
in the solution of the professor the system is solved is solved as follows.
##
\begin{cases}
\rho=0 , \rho=2 \\
\theta= -\frac 2 3 k\pi , k = 0,1,2 \\
\end{cases}
##
isn't that minus in front of 2/3 an error?
because it should be positive, right ?
 
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DottZakapa said:
Homework Statement:: complex equations
Relevant Equations:: complex numbers

hi
given such system of equations

##
\begin{cases}
\rho^2 = 2 \rho \\
2\theta= -\theta+2k\pi , k\in \mathbb Z \\
\end{cases}
##
in the solution of the professor the system is solved is solved as follows.
##
\begin{cases}
\rho=0 , \rho=2 \\
\theta= -\frac 2 3 k\pi , k = 0,1,2 \\
\end{cases}
##
isn't that minus in front of 2/3 an error?
It might have been an oversight, but it isn't incorrect.
The equation you wrote could just as well have been written as ##2\theta= -\theta-2k\pi , k\in \mathbb Z ##
DottZakapa said:
because it should be positive, right ?
 
Mark44 said:
It might have been an oversight, but it isn't incorrect.
The equation you wrote could just as well have been written as ##2\theta= -\theta-2k\pi , k\in \mathbb Z ##

if you solve the first system, from where does that minus in front of ##-2k\pi ## comes from?
 
DottZakapa said:
if you solve the first system, from where does that minus in front of ##-2k\pi ## comes from?
Look at it this way:
##2\theta= -\theta+2k\pi , k\in \mathbb Z##
represents exactly the same set of numbers as
##2\theta= -\theta - 2k\pi , k\in \mathbb Z##
As a slightly different example, if ##\sin(\theta) = \frac 1 2##, then all solutions are given by
##\theta = \frac \pi 6 + 2k\pi, k \in \mathbb Z##
The same set of values for ##\theta## could just as well been written as ##\theta = \frac \pi 6 - 2k\pi, k \in \mathbb Z##.

Like I said, it might have been an oversight on the part of your instructor, but it doesn't make any difference in the resulting values.
 
As @Mark44 says, its the same expression. An integer ##k## could be positive or negative, so if you take ##2k## or ##-2k##, both determines the same set of integers, which is positive and negative even integers.

##k=\left\lbrace...,-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3,...\right\rbrace ##
##2k=\left\lbrace...,-6,-4,-2,0,2,4,6,...\right\rbrace ##
##-2k=\left\lbrace...,6,4,2,0,-2,-4,-6,...\right\rbrace ##

They are both the same set (the order in which you write the elements of a set doesn't matter).
I don't know the context, but sometimes signs are chosen in order to simplify some expressions, or make it easier to realize something.
 

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