Universe Expansion: What Am I Missing?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the expansion of the universe, exploring the reasons behind this phenomenon, the evidence supporting it, and alternative interpretations of the data. Participants engage with concepts from cosmology, including the Big Bang, redshift, and the role of dark energy, while questioning the implications of these ideas.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the universe's expansion, questioning whether stars moving away could instead be moving towards something massive that warps space.
  • Another participant describes the expansion as an experimental fact supported by three pillars: galactic redshift, cosmic microwave background, and supernovae observations.
  • A participant challenges the idea of a massive object causing the observed expansion, arguing that such a scenario would require a hollow sphere surrounding the observable universe, which would not exert a net gravitational force.
  • Concerns are raised about the possibility of the universe's expansion ceasing and reversing, with one participant asserting that current observations do not support this idea, as the universe appears to be accelerating in its expansion.
  • Several participants inquire about resources related to dark matter and dark energy, indicating an interest in further understanding these concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the universe is expanding and that this is supported by experimental evidence. However, there are competing views regarding the implications of this expansion and the potential for alternative explanations, such as the influence of massive objects or the possibility of contraction.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on specific interpretations of observational data, and there are unresolved questions about the nature of dark energy and its role in the universe's expansion. The discussion reflects a range of assumptions and uncertainties regarding cosmological models.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in cosmology, particularly those exploring the concepts of universe expansion, dark matter, and dark energy, as well as those seeking to understand the foundational evidence supporting these ideas.

  • #31
Drakkith said:
We MIGHT not be right? Are you kidding me? We KNOW we might not be right. That is one of the mainstays of science! It's built into the scientific method! That's why you will never hear a decent scientist say that they know something is 100% true, no matter what. Thats why you have things like the announcement of the finding of a new particle that looks like the Higgs at a confidence level of 5 sigma, or about 99.99994%

At least someone is being honest here. There is nothing wrong with taking consideration of other models which explains our observations, but one has to assume the standard model is correct or at least the most plausible for lots of reasons as in one of them is that it explains lots of our observations and undoubtedly shows it.
 
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  • #32
So, how does the contracting universe hypothesis explain the integrated Sachs-Wolfe effect?
 

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