Unravelling the Mystery: What Happens When You Squash Something?

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The discussion revolves around the physics of collisions, specifically what occurs when a person running on train tracks collides with an oncoming train. It explores concepts of motion, deformation during collisions, and the implications of velocity and center of gravity in such scenarios.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant poses a riddle about a man running towards a train and questions whether he stops the train upon collision, suggesting that air resistance might play a role if the scenario were in a vacuum.
  • Another participant argues that the concept of "he" stopping is not well-defined, emphasizing that both the man and the train would deform during the collision.
  • A different participant asserts that the man would not stop the train, noting that the train would hardly notice the collision, and elaborates on the idea that the center of gravity of the man's body matter would have a momentary velocity of zero relative to the train track.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the implications of the collision, with differing views on the definitions of motion and stopping in the context of the riddle.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of motion and the effects of deformation during collisions, as well as the implications of velocity and reference frames.

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OK this kind of has to do with physics, but more of what happnes when you squash something i suppose. Anyways my dad told me this riddle and when i gave up he said he forgot the answer and it has been bugging me for a while.

One thing traveling on a straight path must come to a stop before traveling in the opposite direction.

If a man is running on a train track at lwt's say 1mph, and a train is coming at him at 100mph, when they collide, does he stop the train?

I am guessing that the air around him would kind of slow him down to zero as it gets pushed out to the sides, but what if it was in a vacuum (if he could survive)?
 
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It's a little meaningless to ask then if 'he' stops moving, since 'he' is not really defined. In reality, he (and the train) deform during the course of the collision.
 
hmmmmmmm...

I have no idea what you just said lol
 
Paindealer said:
If a man is running on a train track at lwt's say 1mph, and a train is coming at him at 100mph, when they collide, does he stop the train?

Of course he doesn't stop the train; the train would hardly notice!
He will be stopped of course, before being splattered in the other direction all over the place. But in order to define strictly what it means "he will be stopped", it is best to say that THE CENTER OF GRAVITY OF ALL HIS BODY MATTER, will be, at a certain moment, with velocity 0 wrt the train track. This might be because his foot is still moving _towards_ the train, while his brains have already been moving _with_ the train, so that this averages out, or another disgusting scenario. Take your pick. At a certain moment in time, the velocity of his center of gravity will be zero.
 

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