Urgend Geometric series question

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The discussion revolves around a geometric series problem involving the expression 1/(1+x^2) and its expansion. The original poster, Fred, attempts to relate this to the arctan function and its series expansion by substituting q = -x^2 into the geometric series formula.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the correct application of the geometric series formula, with Fred attempting to derive the series expansion and questioning the convergence of the series. There are repeated prompts to correctly substitute q and identify the general term of the series.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to correctly apply the geometric series. Fred has made progress in identifying the general term but continues to seek clarification on how to proceed further. There is a lack of consensus on the final form of the series and its implications.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through potential misunderstandings regarding the series' convergence and the correct interpretation of terms within the series expansion. There are also indications of confusion regarding the indexing of terms in the series.

  • #31
No, it sums up to 1/(1+x^{2}).
 
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  • #32
Mathman23 said:
Hi

Then

\sum_{j=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{j}x^{2j} = x^{2} + x^{4} + x^{6} + x^{8}

Because j is even.

/Fred
No, j alternates being even and odd.
 
  • #33
Mathman23 said:
Hi

Then

\sum_{j=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{j}x^{2j} = x^{2} + x^{4} + x^{6} + x^{8}

Because j is even.

/Fred

No, j is not only even! If that would be the case, your expression would be x^{4} + x^{8} + x^{12}+.... Go back and check again.
 
  • #34
arildno said:
No, it sums up to 1/(1+x^{2}).
Then

\sum_{j=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{j}x^{2j} = x^{2} + x^{4} + x^{6} + x^{8} Sums up to

\frac{1}{(1+x^{2})}
 
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  • #35
arildno said:
No, it sums up to 1/(1+x^{2}).
Then

\sum_{j=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{j}x^{2j} = x^{2} + x^{4} + x^{6} + x^{8} Sums up to
 
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  • #36
First of all, \sum_{j=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{j}x^{2j} \neq x^{2} + x^{4} + x^{6} + x^{8}, it is \sum_{j=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{j}x^{2j}=1-x^{2} + x^{4} - x^{6} + x^{8}....
 
  • #37
No. You MUST learn to read properly and stop writing sloppy and nonsensical maths.

We have:
(-1)^{n}x^{2n}\sum_{j=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{j}x^{2j}=\frac{(-1)^{n}x^{2n}}{1+x^{2}}
 
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  • #38
And second; you know also this: \frac{1}{1-q}=1 + q + q^2 + q^3 +....

Can you see the connection now?

I strongly suggest you to over the entire problem again and - as arildno is saying - read it properly.
 
  • #39
arildno said:
No. You MUST learn to read properly and stop writing sloppy and nonsensical maths.

We have:
(-1)^{n}x^{2n}\sum_{j=0}^{\infty}=\frac{(-1)^{n}x^{2n}}{1+x^{2}}
Then
\sum_{j=0}^{\infty}(-1)^{j}x^{2j}=1-x^{2} + x^{4} - x^{6} + x^{8} +\cdots + (-1)^{n}x^{2n} = \sum_{j=0}^{\infty}\frac{(-1)^{n}x^{2n}}{1+x^{2}}
 
  • #40
arildno said:
We have:
(-1)^{n}x^{2n}\sum_{j=0}^{\infty}=\frac{(-1)^{n}x^{2n}}{1+x^{2}}

Sorry arildno, but that doesn't make sense.
 
  • #41
assyrian_77 said:
Sorry arildno, but that doesn't make sense.
You're right, it doesn't I'll fix it right away.
 

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