Urgent help on a simple instantaneous power problem

  • Thread starter Thread starter Blkmage
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Power Urgent
Click For Summary
The discussion revolves around calculating the instantaneous power of a particle moving along the x-axis under a force. Participants are debating the correct method to use for finding power, with some opting for P = dW/dt and others for P = Fv. The first method involves differentiating work with respect to time, while the second directly uses force and velocity. There is confusion about why the two approaches yield different results, with one participant noting that P = dW/dt may be more complex when power changes over time. Clarification on the correct method is needed to proceed with the problem.
Blkmage
Messages
11
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


The position of a particle on the x-axis is given by x = 2t^2, due to an applied force of F = e^(2t) parallel to the x axis.

a. Write an expression for the power supplied by this force as a function of time.
b. Compute the instantaneous power when the particle is at x = 8.0


Homework Equations


P = dW/dt
P = Fv


The Attempt at a Solution



So I've talked to some of my classmates about this and I did P = dW/dt while some of them did P = Fv. I'm having trouble comprehending which one to use and why the two methods give different answers.

I said W = Fd = 2t^2*e^(2t) and differentiated that using the product rule, resulting in:

P(t) = 4te^(2t) (t + 1)

Meanwhile, using P = Fv, I just get 4te^(2t). Can someone explain why this is? Part b won't be hard for me once I figure out which way is correct in part a
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Blkmage said:

Homework Statement


The position of a particle on the x-axis is given by x = 2t^2, due to an applied force of F = e^(2t) parallel to the x axis.

a. Write an expression for the power supplied by this force as a function of time.
b. Compute the instantaneous power when the particle is at x = 8.0


Homework Equations


P = dW/dt
P = Fv


The Attempt at a Solution



So I've talked to some of my classmates about this and I did P = dW/dt while some of them did P = Fv. I'm having trouble comprehending which one to use and why the two methods give different answers.

I said W = Fd = 2t^2*e^(2t) and differentiated that using the product rule, resulting in:

P(t) = 4te^(2t) (t + 1)

Meanwhile, using P = Fv, I just get 4te^(2t). Can someone explain why this is? Part b won't be hard for me once I figure out which way is correct in part a

When power is changing over time, I think P=dW/dt would be harder to work with. The formulation P(t)=F(t)*v(t) would seem to lend itself better to calculating instaneous power...
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

Similar threads

  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 28 ·
Replies
28
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
8K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 56 ·
2
Replies
56
Views
14K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
6K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K