Use resistor simplification to find current across the 10 ohm resistor

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Homework Statement



Use resistor simplification to find current across the 10ohm resistor

Homework Equations



V=ir p=vi

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Any help you can give me is much appreciated. When I did it i got down to a parallel circuit with a 30ohm and a 100ohm but didnt get a round answer and i thought the teacher said theyre all rigged to come out right.
 
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  • Circuit schematic of a resistor network fed by a 10 V source on the left, with a 10 Ω series resistor carrying current i, and resistors labelled 40 Ω, 25 Ω, 25 Ω, 100 Ω, 100 Ω, 50 Ω and 50 Ω, a 100 Ω resistor on the top wire, and crossed-out labels on some resistors.
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Yes, here is my work, sorry for not posting originally. I hadnt read the rules yet.
 
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  • Handwritten resistor network simplification: 10 V source with 10 ohm series resistor, parallel 40 and 25 ohm resistors reduced to 15.38 ohms (40·25/(40+25)), then 200 and 25 ohm combined to 22.2 ohms, then 28 and 22.2 ohm values giving 9.08.
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  • Handwritten circuit simplification: a 10 V source with a 10 ohm resistor in series with parallel 15.38 and 22.2 ohm resistors, combined as 15.38 times 22.2 over their sum equals 9.08, then 10 ohm plus 9.08 ohm reduced to 19.08 ohm, and I = V/R gives I = 10/19.08 = 0.524.
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  • Handwritten circuit simplification steps on paper: a 10V source with 10Ω, 25Ω, 40Ω, 100Ω and 200Ω resistors reduced in stages to 19.08Ω, then I = V/R = 10/19.08 = .524 and I = 524 mA.
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I get the same answer you do. The quicker way to do it (after you disregard everything distal to the short) is to observe you're left with 4 parallel resistances 40||25||25||200, the effective resistance of which is more quickly worked out with 1/R = (1/R1 + 1/R2 + 1/R3 +1/R4). Then add that to the 10Ω in series.
 
Curious3141 said:
observe you're left with 4 parallel resistances 40||25||25||200
One of the 100Ω is shorted out. Total R is 40||25||25||100, in series with the 10Ω
 
NascentOxygen said:
One of the 100Ω is shorted out. Total R is 40||25||25||100, in series with the 10Ω

You're absolutely right. :blushing: Missed that, thanks for spotting it.

Still doesn't give him a "nice" answer though - but at least it'll be the right one.
 
So if I am understanding this right, because our teacher hasnt taught us the (1/r1+...) method yet, I will do (1/40 + 1/25 +1/25 + 1/100) which will give me 0.115, then added to the 10ohm resistor will be 10.115, and since I=V/R then 10/10.115= 988.6mA which I know isn't right and I must be doing something wrong because I saw the right answer on my friends homework when he got it back today and he wrote 524mA
 
TheRealDoodle said:
So if I am understanding this right, because our teacher hasnt taught us the (1/r1+...) method yet, I will do (1/40 + 1/25 +1/25 + 1/100) which will give me 0.115
Yes. That gives you 1/R, so invert it to find R. The formula is 1/R = 1/r1 + 1/r2 + ...

Then add 10, and you have the total circuit resistance.
 
TheRealDoodle said:
So if I am understanding this right, because our teacher hasnt taught us the (1/r1+...) method yet, I will do (1/40 + 1/25 +1/25 + 1/100) which will give me 0.115, then added to the 10ohm resistor will be 10.115, and since I=V/R then 10/10.115= 988.6mA which I know isn't right and I must be doing something wrong because I saw the right answer on my friends homework when he got it back today and he wrote 524mA

The equation for determining the effective resistance in a parallel arrangement of n resistors is:

[tex]\frac{1}{R_{eff}} = \frac{1}{R_{1}} + \frac{1}{R_{2}} + ... + \frac{1}{R_{n}}[/tex]

So you have to take the reciprocal (inverse) of that sum to get the effective resistance, which is 1/0.115 = 8.696Ω. This has to be added to the 10Ω in series to get 18.696Ω, which is the total resistance in the circuit.

The current is therefore 10V/18.696Ω = 0.535A = 535mA, which should be the right answer.

The 524mA is using the "200" figure instead of the "100" figure as I originally did. This is a mistake, because one of the 100Ω is shorted out. It's easy to miss it because the short is "after" it (distal to it).