Unknown resistor in circuit - find current through it (tricky)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving an unknown resistor in a circuit, specifically focusing on finding the current through it (I0). Participants explore the implications of the missing resistor value and the necessary parameters for solving the circuit, including voltage and current relationships.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • The initial poster expresses uncertainty about how to approach the problem due to the unknown resistor value.
  • One participant suggests redrawing the circuit to clarify the relationship between the unknown resistor and others, indicating it is parallel to other resistors.
  • Several participants note that without the value of the unknown resistor or additional parameters (like total current or voltage), the problem cannot be definitively solved.
  • Another participant proposes that an algebraic expression could be developed for the current through the unknown resistor, which could later be evaluated if more information is provided.
  • The original poster mentions that the only information provided was the circuit diagram and that the professor's given answer is I knot = 1A, despite the lack of sufficient data.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the problem cannot be solved definitively without additional information regarding the unknown resistor or other circuit parameters. There is no consensus on how to proceed without these values.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the problem, including the absence of the unknown resistor's value and the lack of total current or voltage drop information, which are critical for a complete solution.

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Homework Statement


http://imageshack.us/a/img210/3330/homeworkprob15.jpg

Find I0 in the network.

(The middle resistor value was not given)

Homework Equations


V = IR

Voltage Division:
(Voltage across series resistor) = [(resistance) / total series resistance)](total input V)

Current Division (for 2 parallel resistors):
(current across parallel resistor) = [(other resistor) / (sum of parallel resistors)](total incoming current)]

Parallel resistors = (1/R1 + 1/R2)-1
Series Resistors = R1 + R2

Delta Y conversion and back for resistors

The Attempt at a Solution



I really do not know where I should start.

Other than all I can do being to simplify the 8 and 4 ohm resistors to 12 ohm. But then there's still that unknown resistor in the middle.

I don't see how it would help to use y to T or the other way around to help.
 
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If you redraw this, so that the unknown resistor is "vertical" you can see that it is parallel to some other/s.

Are you sure you aren't given the value of another parameter (e.g., voltage) of the circuit? Otherwise, you can only determine the current as an algebraic expression (in terms of R).
 
Obviously has no solution if unknown resistor remains unknown.
 
rude man said:
Obviously has no solution if unknown resistor remains unknown.

...Or if the total current or some other voltage drop is not provided.
 
Yep, this is exactly all that was given.

Darn... looks like my professor really dropped the ball then (he wrote this problem up himself). Thanks anyway guys.

(By the way, the given answer by him is I knot = 1A)
 
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Well like NascentOxygen says, you could try to work out the algebraic expression for it... All you'd have to do at a later stage would be to insert the numbers...?
 
gneill said:
...Or if the total current or some other voltage drop is not provided.

I say, good point there, gneill! :smile:
 

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