Using an integral to find area of section of a sphere

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The discussion revolves around using integrals to find the area of a section of a sphere defined by specific angular bounds. The original poster explores the integration of a surface area element over the angles theta and thi, with a focus on the limits of integration and their implications on the calculated area.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to integrate to find the area of a spherical section, questioning the correctness of their integral setup and limits. Some participants suggest checking the area element used in the integration, while others propose an alternative method involving surface of revolution.

Discussion Status

The discussion has seen various approaches and suggestions, with some participants offering corrections to the area element and limits of integration. The original poster indicates a resolution regarding the limits but does not provide a final outcome or confirm the correctness of the area calculation.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the original poster's confusion regarding the expected fraction of the surface area corresponding to the angular bounds, highlighting a potential misunderstanding of the relationship between angle and surface area. Additionally, the discussion reflects on the implications of integrating over different ranges of theta.

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(sorry i have not learned latex to display the maths)
Integrating to find the proportion of the area of a sphere that is within the section described by the bounds of theta.
theta is longitude axis angle
-(pi)/9 <= theta <= pi/9
thi is lattitudal axis angle
0 <= thi <= 2 pi

as using the +pi/9 and -pi/9 limits for integration would return 0,
i have used 0 to pi/9 and then multiplied the result by 2.

integral( 0 to pi/9) integral(0 to 2 pi) { 2 r^2 sin(theta) d thi d theta }

= integral( 0 to pi/9) { 4 pi r^2 sin(theta) d theta }

= 4 pi r^2 [-cos(pi/9) - cos(0)]

= 4 pi r^2 [-cos(pi/9) - 1] = 0.06... *(4 pi r^2)

this must be incorrect however as the fraction of the surface of the sphere should surely be fraction of the angle. eg the top half of the sphere should have 1/2 the surface area, so if the range of theta is 2pi/9 surely the area of the sphere should be (4 pi r^2)* [ ( 2 pi / 9 ) /pi]
should therefore be 8 pi r^2 / 9

can anyone point out where i am going wrong in the integral or my thinking?
 
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your area element doesn't look correct
 
area element = r^2 sin(theta) d theta d thi
is this more correct? with the order of the d thi and d theta reversed? this shouldent make any difference though if the correct set of limits for the integrals are used.
 
You may wish to consider computing the area via surface of revolution by revolving the segment of the curve [itex]x^2+y^2=r^2[/itex] around the x-axis between [itex](\pi/2-\pi/9, \pi/2+\pi/9)[/itex]

Just seems easier that way.
 
problem solved, it was just the integral limits which were the wrong way around, also as cos is an even function istead of integrating over 0 to 2 pi which would return 0, integrating from 0 to pi and doubling the result gives the correct answer.
Thanks for your suggestions dudes.
 

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