Using Fourier transform to solve ODE

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The discussion revolves around solving an ordinary differential equation (ODE) using Fourier transforms. The original poster presents their attempts at finding the solution, including the use of impulse response and convolution with the input function.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply Fourier transforms to solve the ODE, expressing concerns about boundary conditions and whether to stop at a certain point in their solution. Some participants question the appropriateness of using Fourier transforms instead of Laplace transforms. Others discuss the concept of the impulse response and its relation to Green's functions, raising questions about how to incorporate boundary conditions effectively.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the use of Fourier transforms and the implications of boundary conditions. There is no explicit consensus, but several lines of reasoning are being explored, particularly regarding the application of Green's functions and the necessity of boundary conditions in the context of the Fourier transform.

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Participants note the importance of boundary conditions for the convergence of the Fourier transform and the implications of using impulse responses in the solution process. There is a mention of a similar example in the original poster's notes, which may influence their approach.

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For part i) I got the answer 1/((jw)^2 + 5jw +6)

For part ii)
I first consider input to be a unit impulse

Thus, Y(w)=H(w)F(w) and F(w)=1
yI(t)=-1/2pi integrate from -infinity to infinity (e^jwt)/(w^2 - 5jw - 6) dw
where yI(t) is the output when f(t) is a unit impulse
using complex contour integration,
I got yI(t) = 0 for t<0
and yI(t) = 2je^(-2t) - 3je^(-3t) for t>0
Then using y(t)=yI(t)*f(t)
I got y(t) = integrate from -infinity to infinity ( 2je^(-2(t-k)) - 3je^(-3(t-k)) )f(k)dk

For a similar example in my notes, it just stops at this step.

However, for this question I am not sure whether should I stop here as I noticed that I haven't use the boundary conditions yet.
Please gives me some idea on this.
 
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Are you sure you need to solve the ODE by Fourier transform and not by Laplace transform?
 
progrocklover said:
However, for this question I am not sure whether should I stop here as I noticed that I haven't use the boundary conditions yet.
Please gives me some idea on this.

Your are taking convolution of h(t) and f(t) to find the particular integral of the ODE. The impulse response h(t) -- you can think of a Green's function of the system. In the process of finding h(t) from [tex]H(j\omega)[/tex], you're using Fourier and inverse Fourier transformations. It requires the boundary value of the GF vanishes at infinity such that the FT converges.
 
klondike said:
Your are taking convolution of h(t) and f(t) to find the particular integral of the ODE. The impulse response h(t) -- you can think of a Green's function of the system. In the process of finding h(t) from [tex]H(j\omega)[/tex], you're using Fourier and inverse Fourier transformations. It requires the boundary value of the GF vanishes at infinity such that the FT converges.
I don't quite understand what you mean. I know the green's function is
2je^(-2(t-k)) - 3je^(-3(t-k)), but I have no idea of how to utilize the boundary condition.
 
Just take the Fourier transform to obtain:

[tex] (-k^{2}+5ik+6)\hat{y}(\xi})=\hat{f}(\xi)[/tex]

Then re-arrange and take the inger Fourier transform to obtain:

[tex] y(x)=\frac{1}{2\pi}\int_{\mathbb{R}}\frac{\hat{f}(\xi )e^{ix\xi}}{-k^{2}+5ik+6}d\xi[/tex]

This will be your particular solution, the complete solution will be given by:

[tex] y(x)=Ae^{-2x}+Be^{-3x}+\frac{1}{2\pi}\int_{\mathbb{R}}\frac{\hat{f}(\xi )e^{ix\xi}}{-k^{2}+5ik+6}d\xi[/tex]

You may now use the boundary conditions to obtain A and B.
 

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