Using Green's Theorem for a quadrilateral

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The discussion focuses on evaluating a line integral using Green's Theorem for a path connecting points A(0, 0), B(2, 2), C(2, 4), and D(0, 6). Participants clarify that since the problem does not specify a closed path, the integral must account for the segment from D back to A, which is not part of the original path. It is suggested to use Green's Theorem normally and then subtract the line integral from D to A. Additionally, there is confusion regarding the shape being described as a parallelogram and whether the integrand's constant nature offers a shortcut. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurately interpreting the path and applying the theorem correctly.
Mohamed Abdul

Homework Statement


Evaluate the line integral of (sin x + y) dx + (3x + y) dy on the path connecting A(0, 0) to B(2, 2) to C(2, 4) to D(0, 6). A sketch will be useful.

Homework Equations


Sketching the points, I have created a parallelogram shape. I also know that green's theorem formula, given here: http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcIII/GreensTheorem.aspx

The Attempt at a Solution


In order to solve this problem, I thought I could just utilize Green's theorem at the bounds of the shape. My main question, however, is what my TA told me: apparently in order to evaluate the integral I also have to subtract the line integral over the curve from (0,6) to (0,0). I am very confused on why we need to do that.
 
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Mohamed Abdul said:

Homework Statement


Evaluate the line integral of (sin x + y) dx + (3x + y) dy on the path connecting A(0, 0) to B(2, 2) to C(2, 4) to D(0, 6). A sketch will be useful.

Homework Equations


Sketching the points, I have created a parallelogram shape. I also know that green's theorem formula, given here: http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcIII/GreensTheorem.aspx

The Attempt at a Solution


In order to solve this problem, I thought I could just utilize Green's theorem at the bounds of the shape. My main question, however, is what my TA told me: apparently in order to evaluate the integral I also have to subtract the line integral over the curve from (0,6) to (0,0). I am very confused on why we need to do that.

As stated, the question did not say "closed path", so it goes from A to B to C to D, but not from D back to A. If you used Green's theorem, you will have included a line-segment that was not part of the original problem.
 
Ray Vickson said:
As stated, the question did not say "closed path", so it goes from A to B to C to D, but not from D back to A. If you used Green's theorem, you will have included a line-segment that was not part of the original problem.
So in solving this I'd use Green's Theorem as normal and then simply subtract the line integral for the path from D to A?
 
Mohamed Abdul said:
So in solving this I'd use Green's Theorem as normal and then simply subtract the line integral for the path from D to A?
Yes. Not sure why you call the shape a parallelogram in post #1. Also, the integrand in Green's theorem comes out constant. Does that suggest a shortcut?
 
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