Using Inverse Trig to Solve a Fractional Problem

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the use of inverse trigonometric functions, specifically arctan, in the context of a fractional expression. Participants are exploring methods to manipulate the expression to facilitate integration.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various methods for approaching the problem, including the use of arctan and trigonometric substitution. There are questions about how to choose an appropriate substitution for u and how to manipulate the denominator to resemble the derivative of arctan.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered hints and suggestions for manipulating the expression, such as dividing by a constant to simplify the denominator. There is ongoing exploration of different approaches, but no consensus has been reached on a specific method.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem does not have clear examples in their textbook, leading to uncertainty about how to proceed. The teacher's requirement to choose u is also a point of discussion.

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I need help with this problem.


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As of now I have absolutely no idea how to do this. I know that I should use inverse tan, but no further than that. What should u equal and how could I get the numerator to 1?

Please explain so I can do similar problems later on.
 
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there are a few ways to do this

if you want to use arctan, have a look at the derivative of arctan...

otherwise you might be able to use trigonometric substitution

the main way to do substitition is write

u = u(x)
then
du = u'(x)dx for the integral
 
The teacher asks to choose u, find u. My textbook doesn't show any example of problems involving inverse trig so I'm stuck trying to figure out how to make the denominator look similar to the derivative of arctan.


Can you give me more hints?
 
The derivative of arctan is \frac{1}{u^2 + 1}. so what substitution should u have so that \frac{1}{10 + 3x^2} = \frac{1}{1 + u^2}
 
well before you even substitute, why not manipulate the expression so the constant on the denominator is 1 (instead of 10), this should help you pick u(x)
 
I can't find anyway to do that. :(

Would I divide everything by 10?
 
musicfairy said:
I can't find anyway to do that. :(

Would I divide everything by 10?

Yes! :smile:

You get \frac{1/10}{1+(3/10)x^2}.

Do you see a good choice for u now? Hint: Take the constant factor 1/10 out of the integral.
 
Hi musicfairy! :smile:
musicfairy said:
As of now I have absolutely no idea how to do this. I know that I should use inverse tan, but no further than that. What should u equal and how could I get the numerator to 1?

uhhh? :confused: why is everyone being so obscure?

make u the tan of something (so that the bottom of the fraction becomes the sec of something :wink:)​
 

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