Using Laplace Equation in one dimension to solve for a charge-free slab

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The discussion revolves around solving Laplace's equation in one dimension for a charge-free slab region defined between two walls with constant potentials. The participants are attempting to derive a formula for the potential at any point within this region, given the boundary conditions at the walls.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the integration of Laplace's equation and the implications of boundary conditions on the potential function. There are attempts to express the potential in terms of constants derived from the boundary conditions, and questions arise regarding the representation of these constants.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different representations of the potential function and questioning the application of boundary conditions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the constants and the boundary conditions, but there is no explicit consensus on the final form of the solution.

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There is confusion regarding the use of symbols and the implications of the charge-free nature of the slab. Participants are also grappling with the mathematical aspects of solving the second-order ordinary differential equation under the specified boundary conditions.

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Homework Statement


An empty (charge-free) slab shaped region with walls parallel to the yz-plane extends from x=a to x=b; the (constant) potential on the two walls is given as Va and Vb , respectively. Starting with LaPlace's equation in one dimension, derive a formula for the potential at any point in the region


Homework Equations




d2V/dx2=0

The Attempt at a Solution



I get the whole concept how they get the average potential since if we were to integrate twice laplace equation we would get two integration constant

d2V/dx2=0

dV/dx= a
V = ax + b

and if we were to average from V(x+a) and V(x-a) we would get

V (x) =1/2[V (x + a) + V (x-a)] and you can use for any point within

how did the answer to this problem came out to be

V(x)=[Vb-Va)x+Vab-Vba]/b-a

??
 
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hansbahia said:

Homework Statement


An empty (charge-free) slab shaped region with walls parallel to the yz-plane extends from x=a to x=b; the (constant) potential on the two walls is given as Va and Vb , respectively. Starting with LaPlace's equation in one dimension, derive a formula for the potential at any point in the region


Homework Equations




d2V/dx2=0

The Attempt at a Solution



I get the whole concept how they get the average potential since if we were to integrate twice laplace equation we would get two integration constant

d2V/dx2=0

dV/dx= a
V = ax + b

and if we were to average from V(x+a) and V(x-a) we would get

V (x) =1/2[V (x + a) + V (x-a)] and you can use for any point within

how did the answer to this problem came out to be

V(x)=[Vb-Va)x+Vab-Vba]/b-a

??

You are using the symbols a and b to represent two different things. If you represent the potential by

V = Cx + D

and use the two boundary conditions to solve for C and D, you get

V = Va + (Vb - Va) (x -a)/(b -a)

which is the same as the answer you were trying to match.
 
Chestermiller said:
V = Cx + D

and use the two boundary conditions to solve for C and D, you get

So if at we have Q+ at a and Q- at b, from a to b Vb=0 and at a the potential will be Va or we have a distance of d from a to b, Va=Qd/Aε0.

So V(x)=C(x)+D
at V(0)=0+D
D=Vb

but you got D as Va?

How did start solving for C? What boundary conditions?
 
Sorry, I totally forgot that is a charge free slab. Therefore I'm still stuck on the boundary conditions

How come your results is equal to the answer? Va is not part of it
 
How come your results is equal to the answer? Va is not part of it

Va is the voltage at coordinate x=a.

V = Cx + D
Va = Ca + D
 
hansbahia said:
Sorry, I totally forgot that is a charge free slab. Therefore I'm still stuck on the boundary conditions

How come your results is equal to the answer? Va is not part of it

This is no longer a physics problem. It has been boiled down to strictly a math problem. The question is, are you capable of solving the following second order ordinary differential equation:

d2V/ dx2 = 0

subject to the following split boundary conditions:

V = Va at x = a

V = Vb at x = b

Well,...can you?
 
Chestermiller said:
d2V/ dx2 = 0

subject to the following split boundary conditions:

V = Va at x = a

V = Vb at x = b

Well,...can you?

Yes I can

Since we have the boundary conditions

V = Va at x = a

V = Vb at x = b

Va=Ca+D

Vb=Cb+D

Set D=Va-Ca

Solve for C on Vb

Then solve for D. Then just plug in Vx

Thanks a lot!
 

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