Using ratio test to find radius of convergence

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The discussion revolves around finding the radius of convergence for the series Ʃ((x-3)^(n)) / (n*2^(n)). Participants are exploring the application of the ratio test and its implications for determining convergence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the steps involved in applying the ratio test, including the manipulation of terms and the importance of absolute values. There is also a focus on understanding the role of the center point, -3, in relation to the radius of convergence.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on interpreting the results of the ratio test and the significance of the center point in the context of convergence. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the radius of convergence and the interval of convergence, with some confusion noted regarding the interpretation of results.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the specific request for the radius of convergence rather than the interval of convergence, which has led to some misunderstandings about the implications of the calculations.

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Homework Statement


Ʃ((x-3)^(n)) / (n*2^(n))


Homework Equations



lim as n→ ∞ (An+1 / An)

The Attempt at a Solution



When dividing two fractions, invert the second and multiple to get what you see below.

(x-3)^(n+1)/((n+1)*2^(n+1)) * (n*2^(n))/((x-3)^(n))

Do some cross canceling to get (n(x-3)) / (2(n-1))

Then when you take the limit as n goes to infinity, you're just left with (x-3)/2

What I'm stuck on is what to do next. The answer is two, but I'm not seeing it.
 
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You use the fact that the absolute value of the ratio must be less than or equal to 1 to find x

\left|\frac{1}{2} (-3+x)\right|<1

| (-3+x)|< 2

the radius of convergence is 2, and it is centered at x=3
 
Timebomb3750 said:

Homework Statement


Ʃ((x-3)^(n)) / (n*2^(n))


Homework Equations



lim as n→ ∞ (An+1 / An)

The Attempt at a Solution



When dividing two fractions, invert the second and multiple to get what you see below.

(x-3)^(n+1)/((n+1)*2^(n+1)) * (n*2^(n))/((x-3)^(n))

Do some cross canceling to get (n(x-3)) / (2(n-1))

Then when you take the limit as n goes to infinity, you're just left with (x-3)/2

What I'm stuck on is what to do next. The answer is two, but I'm not seeing it.

First of all, you forgot absolute value signs.

Secondly, what does the ratio test state??
 
genericusrnme said:
You use the fact that the absolute value of the ratio must be less than or equal to 1 to find x

\left|\frac{1}{2} (-3+x)\right|<1

| (-3+x)|< 2

the radius of convergence is 2, and it is centered at x=3

Oh okay. I thought you had to get x by itself, so the radius of convergence would be 5.
 
Timebomb3750 said:
Oh okay. I thought you had to get x by itself, so the radius of convergence would be 5.

No, it is not 5. Read what he wrote again.
 
Timebomb3750 said:
Oh okay. I thought you had to get x by itself, so the radius of convergence would be 5.

When you get x by itself you would be solving the inequality and thus finding the interval of convergence which is different from the radius of convergence.
 
micromass said:
No, it is not 5. Read what he wrote again.

I know it's not 5. That's what I assumed it was before I posted this thread. But I don't understand what the role of the -3 is.
 
Timebomb3750 said:
I know it's not 5. That's what I assumed it was before I posted this thread. But I don't understand what the role of the -3 is.

To make the series centered at 3.
 
It is the center point of the interval of convergence. If the radius of convergence is 2, then the series converges between 3- 2= 1 and 3+ 2= 5.
 
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Timebomb3750 said:
I know it's not 5. That's what I assumed it was before I posted this thread. But I don't understand what the role of the -3 is.

the -3 is just the same as a graph of y = (x-3)
in that case it centers the line at x=3

in your case it centers the circle of convergence at x=3
 
  • #11
genericusrnme said:
the -3 is just the same as a graph of y = (x-3)
in that case it centers the line at x=3

in your case it centers the circle of convergence at x=3

Thanks for clearing that up. But the problem only asked for radius on convergence.
 

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