Using rotating vector to draw sine waves

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The discussion centers on the use of an anti-clockwise rotation of a radius vector to draw sine waves, which is established as a convention in mathematics and physics. This convention is deemed sensible and necessary for consistency, as it allows for a standard way to represent sine waves starting from zero, rising to a maximum, and then returning to zero. Concerns are raised about clockwise representations in some textbooks, which are labeled as unconventional but not incorrect. Additionally, the conversation touches on the significance of rotational direction in signal processing, where positive and negative frequencies are defined by the direction of rotation. Overall, the anti-clockwise convention is upheld as essential for clarity and uniformity in various applications.
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We have met the idea that a radius of a circle rotating ANTI-CLOCKWISE can be used to draw a sine wave... I get that... it is a great idea but...why does it have to be rotating anti-clockwise. That seems so un natural to me. We were told it is a convention. Does that mean it is something everyone has to follow??
 
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It is a convention but it is a sensible one!
If you sketch a sine wave it starts at zero and rises up to a max, comes down and goes to a negative max before returning to zero... one cycle...This what you get if you project the radius vector horizontally and you start with the radius as a horizontal line along the x-axis and it rotates anticlockwise
 
Yes, everyone has to follow it. Otherwise it wouldn't be convention, would it?
 
absolutely...unfortunately I have a textbook that shows the vector rotating clockwise...I forbid the use of this book in physics lessons.
All the diagrams in this section of the book are 'upside down' ...not wrong... but unconventional.
 
Emilyjoint,
There is a little more to it than this.
In the signal processing field, frequency is a signed number. This is very common when characterizing modulation. The phaser can rotate either direction, ccw for positive frequencies, cw for negative.
Deciding which rotational direction is positive is analogous to deciding which direction on the x-axis is positive.
 
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What I like about the convention is how things appear in 3D... Imagine a set of right-handed axes. Suppose we have rotation in the x-y plane which is anticlockwise when seen from 'above', that is from somewhere with positive z. Then using a right-handed screw rule, the rotation is represented by a (pseudo)vector in the +z direction.

Well, I like it ...
 
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