Vacuum Solutions: Are They Always Divergence Free?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of vacuum solutions to the Einstein field equations, specifically whether these solutions are always divergence free and how one might verify their validity. Participants explore theoretical implications and conditions related to vacuum solutions in the context of general relativity.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether vacuum solutions to the Einstein field equations are always divergence free and seek methods to test this assumption.
  • It is noted that the stress-energy tensor for the vacuum case is the zero tensor, leading to inquiries about how to verify vacuum solutions since the Einstein equation is also divergence free.
  • One participant suggests that if the Einstein tensor is identically divergenceless, then any spacetime allowing the tensor to be calculated could be a candidate for a valid solution, raising concerns about the validity of non-zero results.
  • Another participant emphasizes the difficulty of solving Einstein's equations for specific matter configurations and conditions, contrasting this with the ease of finding general solutions.
  • There is a suggestion that verifying vacuum solutions may involve checking if the Einstein tensor is zero, although this is met with some skepticism regarding its sufficiency.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the implications of initial and boundary conditions on the validity of vacuum solutions, acknowledging that these factors complicate the analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the verification of vacuum solutions and the implications of the divergence of the Einstein tensor. There is no consensus on the sufficiency of checking if the Einstein tensor is zero or on the conditions necessary for valid solutions.

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Limitations include potential missing assumptions regarding the nature of vacuum solutions and the dependence on specific initial and boundary conditions that may affect the validity of solutions.

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Are vacuum solutions to the Einstein field equations always divergence free? How would one test this assumption?
 
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actually, let me rephrase this question (it doesn't make much sense). If I understand correctly, the stress-energy tensor for the vacuum case is always the zero tensor. Since the Einstein equation is also divergence free, how does one verify the validity of vacuum solutions? It seems that for dust solutions, there's the option to test whether the divergence of the stress-energy tensor is zero. I am wondering if there's anything analogous in the vacuum case.
 
I've wondered the same thing. If the Einstein tensor is identically divergenceless then every space-time that allows the tensor to be calculated is a candidate for a valid solution. If the result is not zero, then what's to stop me from calling it the SET and claiming I have a solution ?

There must be other conditions to be satisfied, as you suggest. This surely is covered in standard texts but I don't remember seeing it.
 
What Mentz114 said is true. It's not hard to find solutions to Einstein's equations. But then you have some random stress energy tensor. What's much harder is to solve it for a specific matter configuration, with specific initial/boundary conditions and specific symmetries.

Similarly, I can write down almost any [tex]A_\mu[/tex] and claim that I have a solution to Maxwell's equations. I would then have to infer where the sources are.
 
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actually, let me rephrase this question (it doesn't make much sense). If I understand correctly, the stress-energy tensor for the vacuum case is always the zero tensor. Since the Einstein equation is also divergence free, how does one verify the validity of vacuum solutions? It seems that for dust solutions, there's the option to test whether the divergence of the stress-energy tensor is zero. I am wondering if there's anything analogous in the vacuum case.

You simply have to check if Einstein's tensor is zero, no?:confused:
 
it sounds right to me (what on Earth else could there be?). But I was afraid it was too good to be true... lol...

I suppose once you begin talking about initial and boundary conditions then things get much harder much faster. And I know some vacuum solutions only work with specific side conditions as well.
 

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